Map Teaser: 6th of May 2015

[Therion]

I like more provinces of course, but I wish more provinces were added in the north-eastern and eastern Lithuania and Moldavia. Ohh and there's two or three provinces in Hungary that could still be divided in two.

Source: Wikipedia, Lviv

Please, please Paradox, do it right !!1 My neighbour was born in Lviv. She's an old lady, and she always says she's a Polish patriot. From what I read, Polish culture and language were prevalent also around eastern Ruthenia due to inward colonization. I think there should be a couple of provinces with Polish culture in the eastern Ruthenia, separated from the rest, kind of like Greek culture around the Black Sea and Mediterranean.

The Poles in Red Ruthenia were of course still a minority overall and largely limited to Lviv and other towns. There were also numerous pockets of Poles spread across the rest of Ukraine and Lithuania. By the same token Poznan and indeed, most cities in Eastern Europe - would be German.

Here's an ethnographic map of the region from the year 1858: http://i.imgur.com/qAOEhaQ.jpg

 

[Krajzen]

Very nice changes. Now I am wondering w hat parts of map are left yet as we have seen Italy, HRE, Prussia and Eastern Europe. Only British Isles?

 

[DmUa]

Re Lviv, if that's what the history says, then polonisation (these forums are good for vocabulary!) might be an option, or at least pulling the idea of Ruthenian culture closer to Polish rather than Russian.

- huh? And whose idea is that?

 

[spinoza013]

I'm just going to put a link to my suggestion but basically the british isles would look so much better and play so much better like this: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...-british-isles-map-cultures-and-trade.853799/

I like it but I'd prob put Perthshire between Fife and Argyll. I'd change Argyll to Ross, I'd change Ross to Caithness, I'd change Lanarkshire to Argyll but include Kintyre peninsula. Other than that it's great

 

[IcyBlizzard]

Pomerania the real MVP.


Also that Brandenburg

 

[Mattymooz]

I like it but I'd prob put Perthshire between Fife and Argyll. I'd change Argyll to Ross, I'd change Ross to Caithness, I'd change Lanarkshire to Argyll but include Kintyre peninsula. Other than that it's great

But there is not a lot in Perthshire, so I just kept it as part of Fife for ease. Admittedly, argyll does a look a bit weird and out of place right now....

 

[HabemusZlatan]

Ohh I know! Why don't we let people choose what ever provinces and cultures they want. Ohh wait! That's right, we already can do this ...but it's not the same, is it?

It's that I doubt Poles were the majority in the area back then.
Now, if you want to turn into poles all the people that considered themselves Poles or tied to a Polish state it changes everything, but I'm afraid that's not the case in game.

 

[spinoza013]

But there is not a lot in Perthshire, so I just kept it as part of Fife for ease. Admittedly, argyll does a look a bit weird and out of place right now....

For Perthshire I was including Stirling, Atholl, Gowrie etc. Sounds better than Central .

I think there should only be one province in middle of Scotland. Stirling was only way to the highlands. As it stands you can bypass Stirling.

 

[spinoza013]

For Perthshire I was including Stirling, Atholl, Gowrie etc. Sounds better than Central .

I think there should only be one province in middle of Scotland. Stirling was only way to the highlands. As it stands you can bypass Stirling.

Although with new fort mechanics this will change

I would also petition for Irish sea to be an inland sea. Galleys should rule that area as they did historically. I'd also create a sea zone also inland sea between western Isles and Highlands called The Minch.

 

[Mattymooz]

For Perthshire I was including Stirling, Atholl, Gowrie etc. Sounds better than Central .

I think there should only be one province in middle of Scotland. Stirling was only way to the highlands. As it stands you can bypass Stirling.

At that point though Fife and Perthshire would be tiny compared to everything else. Scotland just isn't big enough to have that many provinces and still have them a similar size to some of the smallest in the game (looking at Frankfurt, east frisia etc. as smallest size)

EDIT: I guess I could add fife into Lanarkshire and that will leave the rest of fife to be perthshire? would that be better?

 

[nalivayko]

So we now know that the addition of provinces outside of Europe is unlikely, as that Golden Horde/Crimean region is identical to the current one. Never played in Poland or Lithuania, so can't really comment on the European additions.

Re Lviv, if that's what the history says, then polonisation (these forums are good for vocabulary!) might be an option, or at least pulling the idea of Ruthenian culture closer to Polish rather than Russian.

No, thank you. Here's Ruthenian for you: I don't just feel much closer to Russian than to Polish, even though I can understand half of the latter's language. I feel Russian (hint, Ruthenian is latinized form of Russian). Now, one may need to introduce cultural mega-unions, where all the Slavs feel closer to each other than to other groups. For now, if you want Polish culture to spread east, spend your diplomatic points (hopefully, it's expensive).

On culture: hopefully, there are some changes made to the system. I cannot understand why Ruthenian is more easily accepted in Poland-Lithuania than Lithuanian. Of course, with Innovative ideas and one policy Poland seems to accept pretty much everyone, but one shouldn't try that hard to get Lithuanians to feel home in their Commonwealth.

EDIT: grammar

 

[blackchoas]

That Ravensburg flag, looks like I know who I'm playing next

Time to become an unstoppable unbeatable OPM in the HRE

 

[DanubianCossak]

Guys lets be realistic.

Whether Lvov is Polish or Ruthenian, doesnt really matter.

It ALL belongs to Russia.

 

[IcyBlizzard]

Very nice changes. Now I am wondering w hat parts of map are left yet as we have seen Italy, HRE, Prussia and Eastern Europe. Only British Isles?

That and I believe the Hansa + Scandanavia

 

[saegoto]

Very nice changes. Now I am wondering w hat parts of map are left yet as we have seen Italy, HRE, Prussia and Eastern Europe. Only British Isles?

to see whole HRE would be nice. and why burgundy is splitted?

 

[nalivayko]

Guys lets be realistic.

Whether Lvov is Polish or Ruthenian, doesnt really matter.

It ALL belongs to Russia.

You are almost there Ruthenian = Russian (руський = русский)

As far as L'vov is concerned, it should follow the rules of the game. If the province culture should be it's capitol's culture, L'vov should be Polish. If the province culture should be the culture of the countryside, L'vov should be Ruthenian.

 

[spinoza013]

At that point though Fife and Perthshire would be tiny compared to everything else. Scotland just isn't big enough to have that many provinces and still have them a similar size to some of the smallest in the game (looking at Frankfurt, east frisia etc. as smallest size)

EDIT: I guess I could add fife into Lanarkshire and that will leave the rest of fife to be perthshire? would that be better?

Fife is just the land between the Forth and Tay rivers. It was wealthy but wasn't big too small to be truly represented on EUIV map. Lanarkshire is to the south of Stirling so adding Fife into it would make no sense. I'd sooner add actual Fife to Lothian and rename Fife Perthshire.

 

[saegoto]

don't forget to rework dutch provinces. overjissel etc

 

[Trytols]

For today's map teaser, we show off our investments in Eastern Poland.

Disable Fog of War for screenshots too mainstream.

 

[Savoyer]

I just whised that Hungary and Austria got a little more provinces and Transsilvania got reworked. Split maramaros and Hunyad at least and add impassable moutains between there But amazing Poland, Saxony, Bohemia and Bradenburg. HRE looks lovely.