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I really hope next (last?) map teaser will be about British Isles

Wiz (I think) said a while back that they didn't focus on Britain in 1.12.
 
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Looks to me like monteferrat is either a vassal of or allied with Savoy

EDIT: Yep yep deffinitely a vassal/march (notice the liberty desire up top)
 
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Why Navarra still isn't a 5PM (at least)?

How would you justify that? At the time of start Navarra only really had its current province and a moderate chunk of the west of Bearn in-game. I can see it being a 2pm in the future when France and the rest of Iberia get some province changes but a 5 way split would consist of a bunch of super tiny and awkward provinces.

Finally you can add Iberia to the HRE without having to fight France over Provence.

I hadn't thought of that... I know what type of game I'll play in the next patch, besides a ck2 and eu4 super Karling campaign.
 
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Tarragona reaches too far south. Maybe it should have been called Castellón and extend Barcelona to the Ebro river as a natural border.

PD: Also "La Mancha" makes no sense to me, a better name would be "Ciudad Real" or "Albacete" I don't know which city was bigger at that time.

I agree about the former- IMO Tortosa makes the most sense- but disagree about the latter: the region is defined historically by its lack of significant settlements, which is a big reason why it got its name which seems to be derived from the Arabic word for wilderness.
 

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So I've been trying to figure out which nation I will play after the expansion. I want to go tall, which means choosing a smallish nation in the Western group not immediately in threat of being devoured, some expansion room but no need to form a giant empire. Venice is an obvious choice, but it's also too easy (and too similar to a Ragusa run I did a few versions ago). I considered Ireland, but that'll wait until a British map update.

Genoa is a very tempting option. The looming danger of France should keep it from being too easy, and there's plenty of room to build a small empire and go tall. It should be a fun alternative to the usual paint-the-Mediterranean play!
 

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I really hope next (last?) map teaser will be about British Isles
It won't, various devs have repeatedly said it was not the scope of these map changes.
 

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Look at the teaser image. Montferrat has a merchant IN CHAMPAGNE transferring trade TO GENOA.

I believe this change is designed so that all the money that flows into the Med from the east and south stays in the Med (apart from what the HRE minors can pull from Ragusa -> Wien). It also means a strong Champagne node can no longer pull what is sometimes quite a bit of money from Genoa up north.

This is a fantastic change, as Genoa was a pretty underpowered trade node, losing ducats to Sevilla and EC (via Champagne). It made Genoa pretty much useless in late game, which hurts the viability of Aragon and Italy. I wonder if Bordeaux flows to Genoa now, too.
 
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This is a fantastic change, as Genoa was a pretty underpowered trade node, losing ducats to Sevilla and EC (via Champagne). It made Genoa pretty much useless in late game, which hurts the viability of Aragon and Italy. I wonder if Bordeaux flows to Genoa now, too.

By the looks of things, there's no connection between Genoa and Bordeaux. There's one to Sevilla (at least, I assume it's to Sevilla, Wiz could always have made Genoa an end node that's fed from Sevilla....), one from Champagne, one from Tunis and two from further East
 

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Looking at this map, I think another playthrough in Italy with the goal of uniting it. The last time I did this was with 1.4 and its almost nonexistent AE. I've always wanted to redo that game and the new features, map, and cultures will make it much more fun.
 

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People keep labeling the patch at 1.12, but Paradox said a while ago that this patch will not be savegame transferable. Doesn't that make it 2.0?
No. Even the devs refered to it as 1.12.
 
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Starting to run out of map changes to tease with but here's a shot of the Western Med. Spot the differences!

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that Monferrat is so green
 
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People keep labeling the patch at 1.12, but Paradox said a while ago that this patch will not be savegame transferable. Doesn't that make it 2.0?
Not really. Pretty much all patches so far were not savegame transferable.
 

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People keep labeling the patch at 1.12, but Paradox said a while ago that this patch will not be savegame transferable. Doesn't that make it 2.0?

I wanted to call it 2.0 but Johan didn't and he outranks me. (It's really not a big deal what number we use anyway)
 
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