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This is beautiful.
I like these 3 pixelated maps better than the 5 images released with the announcement
The level of detail is astonishing. God bless Wiz and his team
 
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I dont get whats the problem? I've actually never seen a map where Portugal is not shown in green. Indepedent of the age of the map or the time the map showed.

Not a national colour, blue and white were until 1910 when the red and green republicans overthrew the monarchy. It'd be like starting Russia as red because for the last 20 years they'll be communist in the game eventually.
 
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I dont get whats the problem? I've actually never seen a map where Portugal is not shown in green. Indepedent of the age of the map or the time the map showed.
I think it's light blue on gigau's map.
 

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Not a national colour, blue and white were until 1910 when the red and green republicans overthrew the monarchy.
Even after the republicans siezed power blue remained the quintessential Portuguese colour.
sem-ele-nao-teria-havido-republica-em-5-de-outubro-de-1910-2.jpg
The most famous picture of the First Republic shows the vast majority of Portuguese troops and officials wearing some form of Blue outfit and uniform.

The green and red only really began taking over the national discourse post-1974.
 
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@Wizzington will we be getting unowned/unownable/impassable areas like in Imperator/EU4? That makes for both more appealing looking maps, as well as more interesting army movement.

Edit: And... are those lines and dots on the sea trade routes...?!
I would hope they do not, I prefer the old blue borders of V2, you could not cross those borders, thus removing gray wasteland, but limiting movement as effective as wasteland
 
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Looks like Qing doesn't have its historical 1836 borders...Again, becauase Victoria 2 had the same issue.

It seems like they are using much later borders of late Qing/Republic of China when it comes to Central Asia, which are pretty much close to modern border lines in the region:
map-1936.jpg

Rather than using the correct and historical Qing borders until 1860s, when their empire was still (almost) fully intact and they still held their part of Central Asia:

map-manchu-no-date-02.jpg

To show a comparison of shrinking Qing borders:

China_1911_de.svg

Ironically, even EU4 allows us to recreate historical Qing borders. Why doesn't Victoria? :(
screenshot taken from Reddit+Imgur)

le3IBiU.jpg

I hope they'll change this later on. A Qing that manages to modernize as fast as Japan would certainly retake those frontier regions from Russia.
 
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Looks like Qing doesn't have its historical 1836 borders...Again, becauase Victoria 2 had the same issue.

It seems like they are using much later borders of late Qing/Republic of China when it comes to Central Asia, which are pretty much close to modern border lines in the region:
map-1936.jpg

Rather than using the correct and historical Qing borders until 1860s, when their empire was still (almost) fully intact and they still held their part of Central Asia:

map-manchu-no-date-02.jpg

To show a comparison of shrinking Qing borders:

China_1911_de.svg

Ironically, even EU4 allows us to recreate historical Qing borders. Why doesn't Victoria? :(
screenshot taken from Reddit+Imgur)

le3IBiU.jpg

I hope they'll change this later on. A Qing that manages to modernize as fast as Japan would certainly retake those frontier regions from Russia.
I suspect this was done to allow Russia to avoid a Central Asian slugfest with China as it expanded south in Vic2, but with the revamped colonization of Vic3, I'm hoping the historical border will be implemented.
 
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>Green Portugal again

Oh for fuck sake...
You're right, it's too similar to Italy, Sokoto, and Brazil. Should be a unique color like purple, that hasn't been used for any of the major potential colonizers or Mediterranean-adjacent countries yet.
 
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Even after the republicans siezed power blue remained the quintessential Portuguese colour.
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The most famous picture of the First Republic shows the vast majority of Portuguese troops and officials wearing some form of Blue outfit and uniform.

The green and red only really began taking over the national discourse post-1974.
I personally find the blue of the Imperial Portugal path fro HoI4 incredibly visually appealing. Very similar to Ifriqaya's blue from CK3. I'd like to see that. Portugal also uses blue in Civ V.
 
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I suspect this was done to allow Russia to avoid a Central Asian slugfest with China as it expanded south in Vic2, but with the revamped colonization of Vic3, I'm hoping the historical border will be implemented.

Indeed. The thing is, that can easily be fixed by using the same system they used for Manchuria in eastern China.

Just let Russia "sphere" Xinjiang and Mongolia (something they actually historically did, given what "sphering" represents in VIcky), and the Qing should give up its western frontier territories to them. Just like they do with outer Manchuria and Haishenwai/Vladivostok when Russia spheres it. Russia won't have to fight a billion soldiers, but instead humiliate and bully their way into colonizing new lands like they did. Issue solved.

Whatever the equivalent of sphering in Vicky3 is going to be, a revamped colonization system would indeed be better.
 
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