Map of Europe, what you think about it?
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Good work Jorian !
I am pretty pleased with the set-up, only those 2 Swiss provinces look so big and the same goes for some provinces on the Balkans
I am pretty pleased with the set-up, only those 2 Swiss provinces look so big and the same goes for some provinces on the Balkans
Umm, i must admit i did not make this, i just quicky gone to imageshack so it does not disappearVeldmaarschalk said:
This is the map what will be in EU3 !
Zeeland looks ugly with that strange diamond shaped islet. I think it's better off without it. Perhaps adding some short rivers to simulate the islands could work? Ah and with a a border that runs a bit furher west, that would also remove a very confusing border.
Uh, no...jorian said:
We don't even know when it was taken and since map modability will come in a development diary (AARland Advocate), map changes are far from improbable. (Not saying that it is probable or easy, we'll see)
The Boss said:Its about time we get another updated screenie of the world, dont ya think?
I heard (from havard I think) in another thread, that Johan is on hols. So it will be next week I think before we get another diary.
The AARland gazette was our diary for this week.
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Kaigon said:
I believe that the game is still at Alpha stage - just entering Beta - and therefore the map ain't finished yet. Recent (official) screenshots are an improvement on the early screenies we saw, and so it will continue I suspect.
There are quite a few more provinces there, 6 for Saxony for example and 4 for Naples I think!
I assume the little contry between Bavaria and Austria is Linz a province of Austria rather tahn a separate country despite the red borders?
It doesnt look bad, say a 8/10 (EUII being a 10/10 and Vicky say 6/10) wish the Illyrian coast had more islands and inlets.
I assume the little contry between Bavaria and Austria is Linz a province of Austria rather tahn a separate country despite the red borders?
It doesnt look bad, say a 8/10 (EUII being a 10/10 and Vicky say 6/10) wish the Illyrian coast had more islands and inlets.
Definitly the archbishopry as Upper Austria (Linz) was never an independent entity during that timeframe.
Hope this wont be the definite map. The Slovakia province seems to be a bit huge and the danube river is in the wrong place from the first look.
Hope this wont be the definite map. The Slovakia province seems to be a bit huge and the danube river is in the wrong place from the first look.
Definately too few provinces. The Archbishophry of Salzburg is a good start, but i would even know about 10 other reigns in todays Bavaria...The HRE should have as many provinces as possible. Also Bavaria seems to reach a bit too far to the north-east.
If Salzburg is included, why not add Passau, Freising, Regensburg...and so on...just make the HRE a giant mess of little reigns...as it was.
Could go down even to free cities for my taste...but surely would not suit everybody as it would be too complicated..your thoughts?
If Salzburg is included, why not add Passau, Freising, Regensburg...and so on...just make the HRE a giant mess of little reigns...as it was.
Could go down even to free cities for my taste...but surely would not suit everybody as it would be too complicated..your thoughts?
Ohh..and as it is 1701...by 1779 the Bavarian Innviertel would go to Austria, which is not possible on this map as the only borders between Austria and Bavaria are north of the Danube, but the Innviertel is even south of Salzach/Inn.
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Methinks it would make the map hopelessly crowded. Not to mention the fact some provinces would be so small (cities?) they'd be barely clickable. No thank you. I prefer the abstraction.
Best argument for little provinces is Swabia...that big spot there seems so wrong as it historically was divided into hundreds of little reigns, free knights and cities basically.
Nice map. I think, however, that the Danish peninsula (Jutland & Holstein) should be a bit shorter.
The difficulty with map design is that it inherantly involves making tough decisions about just how detailed you're going to get. More detail might appeal to people, but makes a rather major change in a lot of game mechanics (adding provinces means that during wars you need the army structures to capture them, interfaces that make it easier for players to do all of these small conquests, alterations to the battle/siege mechanics to reflect smaller regions being occupied, changes to province management since there will be so many more of them for the average country to administer, etc......). It would also place some extra demands on the system (CPU usage to calculate stuff and manage AI decisions for more provinces, and RAM usage to store the data).Duke of Bavaria said:
CK's map was restricted to (approximately) Europe (and a few bits of North Africa and the Middle East) and had roughly the same number of provinces as EU2 which had a map of the entire world. Loosely speaking, CK's map broke down each EU2 province into 3 CK provinces. Even then, people kept asking for more provinces.
The line has to be drawn somewhere and, for a global-scale grand strategy game that doesn't overwhelm the user with minutia or demand too high sys specs, the upper limit is roughly where EU3's map has been created. This means that if you add another 100 or 200 provinces in Europe you have to take them away from somewhere else. The folks who worked on it simply tried the best they could to represent each region as well as possible without ruining another one.