Hive said:Why add 2 provinces to Finland?
Also, I think Ävlsborg is too small.
Hallsten said:edit: Taking care of Älvsborg is easily done, but I think it's a _very_ interesting addition to Scandinavia as a whole...
Nikolai II said:Give it all of Västergötland south of Vänern and keep the northern part as Värmland (You could call it Västergötland again, or something else).
(You can use the lake between Västergötland and Östergötland as an excuse for not being able to walk between those two provinces and the game will behave just as by your setup)
Bergslagen should be named Dalarna since you moved it up north?
Kong Skjold said:Slesvig wouldn't be danish is was lost to Holstein in the middle of the 14'th century, and though the northen parts where given back in 1920, the city of Slesvig remained on german hands. Slesvig-Holstein might have had the same king as Denmark since 1461 but it did not have the same constitution, rigsraad - and so on. Thus compensating for the increase of Swedish provinces by adding Slesvig would only further the allready unhistorical imbalance between Denmark and Sweden! - Just had to say it
That's exactly how it's modelled in-game. When Russia takes Finland, Åland goes with itBueDigre said:Shouldn´t åland be a part of uppland? Upp till 1809 it was administerd from Sweden, not Finland. Only after russia took it did it become part of Finland.
Hallsten said:I'm no expert on the feodal system of Germany, but I guess that Schleswig and Holstein had the same relationship to the Danish king as Vorpommern, Bremen-Verden and Wismar had to the Swedish king. They were not part of Sweden proper, but since the Swedish king was regarded as an imperial prince of the HRE with these provinces as feifs, its incomes still went to the crown. As such I see no problem with Schleswig and Holstein going to the Danish crown in 1461 as you mentioned.
Kong Skjold said:I'm no expert either, but the diference that had the largest impact where the "rigsråd". In Denmark the king couldn't take a shit without asking the extremly conservative rigsråd permission first (that btw. is why Denmark did not have any significant standing army untill after 1660). As duke of Slesvig-Holstein however he could do pretty much as he pleased (exagurating). That is why af years of negotiation between the rigsråd and the king that Christian IV during the Kalmar wars had to threathen the rigsråd that he would declare war on Sweden as the duke of Holstein if they did not allow him to declare it as the king of Denmark (any gains would have gone directly to Christian IV as the duke of Holstein instead of going to Denmark under the controll of the rigsråd). Basically the only thing in common with Holstein and Denmark was the king. After 1660 however I can see the sense in making Slesvig and Holstein part of Denmark, since the the dansih king now had the right to declare wars, acces to the treasury, etc. - So its not the feudal system of germany that was my concern, but the internal government of Denmark and Holstein as seperates.
If this is supposed to be Jämtland AND Härjedalen, it would be nice to have Härjedalen in it as well? Härjedalen is the part of the OLD Jämtland province that is now in the NEW Bergslagen province.Hallsten said:18: Jämtland/Härjedalen - norwegian
deallus said:If this is supposed to be Jämtland AND Härjedalen, it would be nice to have Härjedalen in it as well? Härjedalen is the part of the OLD Jämtland province that is now in the NEW Bergslagen province.