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Just woke up. Mine will be done in the next 2-3 hours max.
Also, are we working with the small map now?
Also, are we working with the small map now?
Everybody forgot the dutch colonies in their maps 
Can i also claim another turn and post another nation?If possible i would like to work in indonesia.
Can i also claim another turn and post another nation?If possible i would like to work in indonesia.
Official Name: Ethiopian Empire
Common Name(s): Ethiopia, Abyssinia
Government: Monarchy
Capital: Addis Ababa
Languages: Amharic 12%, Oromo 10%, Bantu 14%, Swahili 24%, Arabic 8%
Head of State: Emperor Sahle Dengel
Head of Government: Emperor Sahle Dengel
Population: 12.48 million
Religion: Ethiopian Orthodox (officially part of the Coptic Orthodox Church) 62%, Catholic 6%, Muslim 18%
Founding Date: 1137
Date of Max Extent: 1840
Development: Medium
Brief History: The Ethiopian Empire was founded in 1137 by the Zagwe dynasty, but it was overthrown in 1270 by a Solomonid one. Through the middle ages Ethiopia maintained contacts with Europe via Jerusalem and Rome, even organizing in 1360 a French-Ethiopian invasion of Egypt. The French were repelled, but the Ethiopians ruled southern Egypt for the next century before gradually losing ground to local Muslim rulers.
Beginning in the 16th century Ethiopian rulers formed and maintained an alliance with Portugal and the Catholic church against Muslim encroachment. They successfully repelled a Muslim invasion in 1530s. Portuguese influence grew until 1633 when Jesuit missionaries were expelled from the country after a popular Orthodox backlash.
Armed with Portuguese knowledge and weapons the rulers of Ethiopia begun to exert greater and greater influence in the areas around the country. This influence was translated into outright rule with the conquest of the areas around the lower Nile in the 1720s, and then the areas around the great lakes of Africa in the 1750s. This brought the country into conflict with Muslim rulers along the Indian Ocean coast who checked any further political expansion by Ethiopia. But while the political boundaries have remained static since the mid-18th century, Coptic Orthodoxy has continued its spread through Africa, aided by Ethiopian missionaries, to the point that it now reaches West Africa and the lowlands of central South Africa.
EDIT: I used the last version of the "big" map I could find. The last uploaded map was very little, so I assume we don't want to use that one.
Common Name(s): Ethiopia, Abyssinia
Government: Monarchy
Capital: Addis Ababa
Languages: Amharic 12%, Oromo 10%, Bantu 14%, Swahili 24%, Arabic 8%
Head of State: Emperor Sahle Dengel
Head of Government: Emperor Sahle Dengel
Population: 12.48 million
Religion: Ethiopian Orthodox (officially part of the Coptic Orthodox Church) 62%, Catholic 6%, Muslim 18%
Founding Date: 1137
Date of Max Extent: 1840
Development: Medium
Brief History: The Ethiopian Empire was founded in 1137 by the Zagwe dynasty, but it was overthrown in 1270 by a Solomonid one. Through the middle ages Ethiopia maintained contacts with Europe via Jerusalem and Rome, even organizing in 1360 a French-Ethiopian invasion of Egypt. The French were repelled, but the Ethiopians ruled southern Egypt for the next century before gradually losing ground to local Muslim rulers.
Beginning in the 16th century Ethiopian rulers formed and maintained an alliance with Portugal and the Catholic church against Muslim encroachment. They successfully repelled a Muslim invasion in 1530s. Portuguese influence grew until 1633 when Jesuit missionaries were expelled from the country after a popular Orthodox backlash.
Armed with Portuguese knowledge and weapons the rulers of Ethiopia begun to exert greater and greater influence in the areas around the country. This influence was translated into outright rule with the conquest of the areas around the lower Nile in the 1720s, and then the areas around the great lakes of Africa in the 1750s. This brought the country into conflict with Muslim rulers along the Indian Ocean coast who checked any further political expansion by Ethiopia. But while the political boundaries have remained static since the mid-18th century, Coptic Orthodoxy has continued its spread through Africa, aided by Ethiopian missionaries, to the point that it now reaches West Africa and the lowlands of central South Africa.
EDIT: I used the last version of the "big" map I could find. The last uploaded map was very little, so I assume we don't want to use that one.
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Map and more detailed stats coming in the next hour or so, but I thought I'd post the idea now, to give the next person a chance to start.
Everybody forgot the dutch colonies in their maps
And everybody my United deccan sultanates.
Its because some of the maps are in the wrong format/too small. So its hard to work with those.
Maybe we should switch to a map that is easier to use? What about a blank EU 3 map or something else that is familiar to everyone?
Maybe we should switch to a map that is easier to use? What about a blank EU 3 map or something else that is familiar to everyone?
Was a glare not sufficient to say that I don't approve of resizing the map? :glare:
Last one who used the proper map, could you please add in the missing states?
Current Claims List: Spectre17, Hashoosh, Watercress
Last one who used the proper map, could you please add in the missing states?
Current Claims List: Spectre17, Hashoosh, Watercress
Another claim for me.
Did you not like the idea of using a different map, one with defined regions maybe? Its kind of hard right now to tell exactly where the borders are.
Did you not like the idea of using a different map, one with defined regions maybe? Its kind of hard right now to tell exactly where the borders are.
I'll like to stake another claim. I have a better idea for Japan, and I'll make sure to pull through this time.
Updated map with all countries. Apologies if the shade of color is slightly off for the Romans.
Current Claims List: Hashoosh, Watercress, Stormbringer, MrQwerty
I'm sorry, what? The only thing that was done was that the map was shrunk! How is that a different map? It's simply a damaged version of the existing map.
Furthermore, well, what? The only map I can find that does that is a terrain map, and that one is not feasible to use as it is too big (disk space-wise) and it is pixellated. There is a smaller map for which there is a large database of historic borders and similar stuff, but that one was voted down when discussing the start of this game. Why? I suppose because it was not as pretty, and was much much smaller, with Cyprus f.ex. only being five pixels large.
Rant over, I do apologise if I come off wrong.
I'm sorry, what? The only thing that was done was that the map was shrunk! How is that a different map? It's simply a damaged version of the existing map.
Furthermore, well, what? The only map I can find that does that is a terrain map, and that one is not feasible to use as it is too big (disk space-wise) and it is pixellated. There is a smaller map for which there is a large database of historic borders and similar stuff, but that one was voted down when discussing the start of this game. Why? I suppose because it was not as pretty, and was much much smaller, with Cyprus f.ex. only being five pixels large.
Rant over, I do apologise if I come off wrong.
Sorry for the confusion. The map was shrunk, and as a result I went back and re-did the borders.
Problem is: its a bit hard to place borders on the large map when all I have to go on is the small map. Possible solution is to use a map that has pre-defined provinces/regions or something. I had something like this in mind: http://uppix.net/d/8/4/8c8e8a1f74d8056dc8a352139ee63.html
However, if this was already talked about and rejected then I apologize. What we have now is perfectly fine.
Problem is: its a bit hard to place borders on the large map when all I have to go on is the small map. Possible solution is to use a map that has pre-defined provinces/regions or something. I had something like this in mind: http://uppix.net/d/8/4/8c8e8a1f74d8056dc8a352139ee63.html
However, if this was already talked about and rejected then I apologize. What we have now is perfectly fine.
Official Name: The Great Middle Kingdom and Celestial Empire of all Chinas
Common Names: Joseon China, Empire of Manchuria, Greater Korea
Government: Absolute Monarchy
Capital: Beijing
Languages:15% Korean (Official), 30% Manchu(Accepted), 55% Beifaren
Head of State: Emperor Yeongjo
Head of Government: Haejo Choi Suk
Population: ~55,000,000
Religion: Confucian: 65% (Official), 20% Mahayana Buddhist, 10% Korean Buddhist, 5% Nestorian Christian
Founding Date: Joseon Takeover 1758, May 10th. Joseon Dynasty Establishment: July 1392
Date of Maximum Extent: 1744 (Qing) or 1821 (Joseon)
Development Level: Low
History: TBD
Official Name: Nippon Teikoku [Empire of the Land of the Rising Sun]
Common Name(s): Nippon, Japan
Government: Empire
Capital: Kyoto
Languages: 99% Japanese
1% Other
Head of State: Emperor Ashikaga Yoshi
Head of Government: Shogun Shimazu Hiroshi
Population: 25 million
Religion: 96% Shinto
3% Christianity
1% Other
Unification Date: 1570
Date of Max Extent: 1750
Development: Medium
Let me know if the above statistics make sense
Glory to the Emperor, lord of Nippon and divine descendent of the sun.
Japan was once a land of warring daimyos, each competing for the title of Shogun, great general and civil administrator. The imperial court, while lavish and exquisite, never excercised much political power since the 12th century.
In the course of the Sengoku Jidai, when Spanish imperialists traded weaponry with the local daimyos, most noteably those of the island of Kyushu. These weapons, in the hands of hundreds of levied peasents, proved victorious for the perseverent Daimyo Tokugawa Ieyasu, who became Shogun and demanded isolation of Nippon.
The Spanish however, through help of the lords of Kyushu and technological superiority, warred with the new Shogun until he was forced the abdicate. The daimyo of the Shimazu clan, claiming descendence from the first Shogunate, was installed.
The new Shogun would focus surprisingly inward on rebuilding the civic infrastructure and insuring a secure line of sucession from him to his son.
The opportunity of expansion would come when the Chinese Republic declared war on the Korean state in the mid 18th century. Simazu Takeshi would soon after invade, recalling Oda Nobunaga's ambition had his death not cut him short. The invasion, although hastily calculated, would overpower the weaker Korean forces, yet a stalemate caused by brilliant Korean admirals and generals would restrict the conquered lands to Seoul and the southeast. These lands, known as Choson Sukoshi, would be heavily fortified by castles, some of which rival that of Osaka.
Colonization of Hokkaido has begun soon after the campaign in Korea. Here the colonists hope to spread Japanese culture throughout the rest of the island, currently occupied by the Ainu.
With the decline of Spanish power came a stagnation of western contact. The Japanese are still equipped with 17th century western techonology. Yet tomorrow is a new horizon, with new innovations and ideas. Would these confuse and disorient the Shogunate and throw the land into another civil war, and if so, will they recover and use Western culture to expand to lands never seen before, and then perhaps Japan would become a world power?
Common Name(s): Nippon, Japan
Government: Empire
Capital: Kyoto
Languages: 99% Japanese
1% Other
Head of State: Emperor Ashikaga Yoshi
Head of Government: Shogun Shimazu Hiroshi
Population: 25 million
Religion: 96% Shinto
3% Christianity
1% Other
Unification Date: 1570
Date of Max Extent: 1750
Development: Medium
Let me know if the above statistics make sense
Glory to the Emperor, lord of Nippon and divine descendent of the sun.
Japan was once a land of warring daimyos, each competing for the title of Shogun, great general and civil administrator. The imperial court, while lavish and exquisite, never excercised much political power since the 12th century.
In the course of the Sengoku Jidai, when Spanish imperialists traded weaponry with the local daimyos, most noteably those of the island of Kyushu. These weapons, in the hands of hundreds of levied peasents, proved victorious for the perseverent Daimyo Tokugawa Ieyasu, who became Shogun and demanded isolation of Nippon.
The Spanish however, through help of the lords of Kyushu and technological superiority, warred with the new Shogun until he was forced the abdicate. The daimyo of the Shimazu clan, claiming descendence from the first Shogunate, was installed.
The new Shogun would focus surprisingly inward on rebuilding the civic infrastructure and insuring a secure line of sucession from him to his son.
The opportunity of expansion would come when the Chinese Republic declared war on the Korean state in the mid 18th century. Simazu Takeshi would soon after invade, recalling Oda Nobunaga's ambition had his death not cut him short. The invasion, although hastily calculated, would overpower the weaker Korean forces, yet a stalemate caused by brilliant Korean admirals and generals would restrict the conquered lands to Seoul and the southeast. These lands, known as Choson Sukoshi, would be heavily fortified by castles, some of which rival that of Osaka.
Colonization of Hokkaido has begun soon after the campaign in Korea. Here the colonists hope to spread Japanese culture throughout the rest of the island, currently occupied by the Ainu.
With the decline of Spanish power came a stagnation of western contact. The Japanese are still equipped with 17th century western techonology. Yet tomorrow is a new horizon, with new innovations and ideas. Would these confuse and disorient the Shogunate and throw the land into another civil war, and if so, will they recover and use Western culture to expand to lands never seen before, and then perhaps Japan would become a world power?
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Well, I'll remark that that Japan still holds some Ainu lands. However, I am not very good at Japanese demographics, so I do not know how many Ainu would live there at this time.
Also, sorry for missing your claim videonfan. I am fairly certain that I missed your claim due to the ambiguity of whether or not it actually was a claim.
Current Claim List: videonfan
Also, sorry for missing your claim videonfan. I am fairly certain that I missed your claim due to the ambiguity of whether or not it actually was a claim.
Current Claim List: videonfan
Actually,i forgot what i wanted to write so anyone so i don't think my claim is valid anymore
Being at a lower civilized level and occupying a small island, I would expect the number of Ainu to be in the thousands. I put my population estimate in the range of numbers given by earlier people. My first guess was at 35 million, but that was much higher than most other numbers here, so I lowered it to 20 million.
I would post another claim, but I'm going to be busy all day tomorrow. I'll be back on Friday.
