Map design

[Birger]

Now that we can edit the map I want to remake it. For starters the look of it, the new provinces will have to wait...

I want it to look something like this, what do you guys think?

or

I like this one the best myself, work in progress...



I know Hive...

 

[Hive]

I know Hive...

What is it this time?

It's hard to judge without actually seeing this ingame, with colours and all...

 

[Birger]

Just messing with you.
You said before that you didn't like how the map in CK and Victoria looked like, that's all.

I'll see if I can upload a ingame screenie later today

 

[Hive]

Just messing with you.
You said before that you didn't like how the map in CK and Victoria looked like, that's all.

Heh true that. It looks confusing imo, and it makes the game run slower...

But this isn't exactly the same... will be interesting to see how it' gonna look.

 

[WiSK]

Birger, I think they look great but before you waste a lot of time, I should warn you about the 16 megabyte limit in lightmap. The compression system used by Johan prefers smooth transition of shade. That's why the inner-glow thing works well. The compression does very badly with more complex textures like the ones you post.

 

[Birger]

Heh true that. It looks confusing imo, and it makes the game run slower...

But this isn't exactly the same... will be interesting to see how it' gonna look.

The EU2 map is alright but it's a bit too cartoonish for me.
Hopefully this will turn out ok.

 

[Birger]

Birger, I think they look great but before you waste a lot of time, I should warn you about the 16 megabyte limit in lightmap. The compression system used by Johan prefers smooth transition of shade. That's why the inner-glow thing works well. The compression does very badly with more complex textures like the ones you post.

That's good to know, thanks WiSK.

 

[Hive]

The EU2 map is alright but it's a bit too cartoonish for me.
Hopefully this will turn out ok.

Heh. I personally like the "cartoonish" look...

 

[Birger]

Birger, I think they look great but before you waste a lot of time, I should warn you about the 16 megabyte limit in lightmap. The compression system used by Johan prefers smooth transition of shade. That's why the inner-glow thing works well. The compression does very badly with more complex textures like the ones you post.

That reminds me, Johan told me once that he's using a modified map for EUII where at least Europe looks like the CK map.

 

[Hive]

That reminds me, Johan told me once that he's using a modified map for EUII where at least Europe looks like the CK map.

Really? Evil.

 

[WiSK]

That reminds me, Johan told me once that he's using a modified map for EUII where at least Europe looks like the CK map.

I would be very interested in seeing that map. Could further our understanding of how the lightmap works. So, how do I contribute to your beer-for-Johan fund?

 

[unmerged(11496)]

Now that we can edit the map I want to remake it. For starters the look of it, the new provinces will have to wait...

They both look real good...do all provs have to be the same texture?

I thought your upper example would be great for mountain provs, where you lower example would do quite well for desert and plains provs. Maybe a more "rounded" version of your upper texture for forests?

Just a thought, don't know if it's even practical.

 

[Birger]

I would be very interested in seeing that map. Could further our understanding of how the lightmap works. So, how do I contribute to your beer-for-Johan fund?

I'd like to see that as well, I'll ask him nicely the next time we go for a beer.
I dunno, perhaps I should open up a paypal account.

About the map, I'll edit Europe and see how big the lightmap gets.
I don't mind the work, much can be done by actions and I really want a nice looking map for a poster.

Edit: I start by adding the CK style shading, I think it looks much better with that. Does anyone got a 1:1 map of EUII?

 

[Captain Frakas]

Your second map look very great !!!
I love it

 

[I Killed Kenny]

The second one looks better...

 

[Cagliostro]

I wish Johan'd add more country colors.

I'm so impressed with everyone's work on this stuff I don't even know how to express myself, though.

 

[Kaigon]

Second one is a bit better than the first one, and I find both of them great
I'm not sure, but I think I like the coastline-style too.

 

[Vricklund]

Interesting and highly relevant thread. Replicating the original EU border shadings is obviously not as easy as one would expect and that statement is based both on my own labours but also on the work I've seen posted here.

The PS bevel function just doesn't live up to expectations, so I'm leaning more and more towards redoing the whole map in some new way. Leaving the inner glow but perhaps using a simpler province border.

 

[Birger]

Interesting and highly relevant thread. Replicating the original EU border shadings is obviously not as easy as one would expect and that statement is based both on my own labours but also on the work I've seen posted here.

The PS bevel function just doesn't live up to expectations, so I'm leaning more and more towards redoing the whole map in some new way. Leaving the inner glow but perhaps using a simpler province border.

The closest I got to the map is this:

Still the inner shadow is really tricky...

 

[unmerged(27913)]

I also like the second map better. It looks very good.