Manpower Issue

[Darth Imperius]

Just bought the game during the recent Steam sale, so forgive me if this has already been addressed, but a quick thread search only got me one potential answer to this problem, which I'll quote below.

Basically, I was playing a game as Germany, and waited until the last minute to change from Limited Conscription to Extensive Conscription, so as to avoid the training time penalty, and when I did, there was no change at all to my manpower pool or recruitable population percentage. I linked a screenshot below showing the issue.

When I searched the forums, I found this thread where a Moderator stated:

"Changing law doesn't give you more manpower right away anymore but start a trickle of it."

Thread: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...rrors-playing-as-japan.1078184/#post-23933260

I thought that I had missed a patch note, so I went through the patch notes of every single patch from 1.5.0 back to 1.0.1 and I didn't find a single note on any change to how conscription laws or how manpower worked.

So I am left feeling very confused as to what happened and why this change was made, and yet not documented, as it is a fairly large change to gameplay and can affect entire strategies, as it did mine. It's not a game breaking change, but I feel like it is large enough to warrant a patch note or a sticky to an official announcement as to the change and why it was implemented.

I could argue that it was an unnecessary change (training time already determines how fast the new recruits can reach the battlefield), but that can be another thread. I just felt like this didn't have nearly the attention it deserved for how large a change it was.

 

[Oliver Twopence]

It was documented in a dev diary, at least. Have not read the patch notes.

 

[Darth Imperius]

It was documented in a dev diary, at least. Have not read the patch notes.

Ah, that's something at least. Should still be in the patch notes, imo. I guess I'll try and go through the more recent ones.

 

[Oliver Twopence]

Yeah about that... I can’t seem to find it... I am sure I read it somewhere, though.

The effect really should be made clear in the tooltip, though. I take it that it isn’t since I have seen other people having the same question. That is a bit weird. Hopefully they will add something.

 

[Darth Imperius]

Do you happen to remember the reasoning behind it? Was it simply a balance fix to prevent the whole "keep limited conscription until you're out of manpower to avoid the 10% training penalty as long as possible?"

I'm ok with the change, just didn't like that it was unexpected, and I'd like to learn why it was made.

 

[Oliver Twopence]

Found it.

Speaking of mobilization speed, you no longer get a chunk of manpower instantly when enacting conscription laws or other changes to recruitable manpower. Instead how quickly the manpower is made available by the law change is controlled by your mobilization speed. The higher the war support the faster new manpower trickles in.

EDIT: As for the reason why, I reckon you're right on the money: the choice gets a little harder if you don't get all the manpower right away.

 

[DragonScythe]

It also makes a difference for general casualty reinforcements. The point wasn't primarily for people avoiding the 10% training penalty, it was for the production penalties for the later laws.