Manpower in 1.5

[krios41]

Ever since Paradox has given us a bowl of cornflakes i noticed that i have no manpower(read: barely any)...
Where previously i easily had half a million in reserve on volunteer only now i'm sitting on extensive conscription with only 230K left, give or take a few thousand.
And no, it's not because of the how Manpower now trickles in isntead of isntantly (or maybe it is in a way i don't understand)
This is my current Italy run

But this leads me to believe that there is no more manpower coming from the cosntription alw, only 2.65K each month from growth...

I'm also doing a Austria-Hungaria run in Multiplayer where my friend is oposing hitler :3
I accidently kicked of WW2 in 1938 when i demanded Transylvania (Everything turned to shit, made clear by teh fact that a Fascist Itlay joined the fricking allies!). There i also went to Extensive constription ASAP to get some manpower. Similar problem as in my current Italy run, but MUCH worse! I'm at 0 manpower, i didn't build any new devisiosn and i'm only using the ones i got from anexing Austria and Czechoslovakia.

Did something else change? has anyone else Manpower problems? Can i have some tips? Do i realy have to go mass mobilization or Desperate defence in order to get a somewhat decent manpower pool?

 

[Alliegorical]

Your free manpower plus your used manpower is only 1.34M, but your total manpower is 2.17M. The rest is probably still being mobilized. It's not a very fast process.

The tooltip really should tell you how much is still mustering and how much you'll muster next day/month.

 

[Darth Imperius]

I just posted a thread trying to figure this out myself. I can't for the life of me figure out where it was announced that manpower from laws only came at a trickle now.

But even that put aside, basic arithmetic will show that your numbers don't make sense, as Aaronomus pointed out. At least in the screenshot in my thread below, you could see that I was receiving a trickle of manpower mobilizing at 0.009% each day, but that's not even shown here.

 

[krios41]

Your free manpower plus your used manpower is only 1.34M, but your total manpower is 2.17M. The rest is probably still being mobilized. It's not a very fast process.

The tooltip really should tell you how much is still mustering and how much you'll muster next day/month.

But when i up a constription law it usualy tells me the % of how much is mobilizing per day... and that ain't happening rn

 

[DragonScythe]

When you mobilize, say to 5%, the tooltip doesn't jump to 5, it goes up gradually. 2.59%, 2.68, etc. Something else might be wrong, are you using any mods? Manpower mods might break the new system.

 

[krios41]

When you mobilize, say to 5%, the tooltip doesn't jump to 5, it goes up gradually. 2.59%, 2.68, etc. Something else might be wrong, are you using any mods? Manpower mods might break the new system.

100% vanilla

 

[Alex_brunius]

How many losses/casualties do you have from wars?

Free manpower + Used manpower + casualties should be = to Total manpower.

 

[krios41]

by now 662K

That is how it looks now. (math isn't my forté)
I'm starting to wonder if this war is actually winable... fighting the soviets with the Amercans breathing down my neck.
WE HAVEN'T EVEN CAPITULATED POLAND YET

 

[fabius]

The tooltip needs to tell us what's left in the current mobilisation pool and how many per month are mobilised

 

[Mamluke]

How many losses/casualties do you have from wars?

Free manpower + Used manpower + casualties should be = to Total manpower.

But its a player country, even if we account for 300K loses, there is still 300K to 400K manpower missing by my estimates.
Army : 1.1M
air : 13.06K
Navy : 64.1K
free manpower : 232.03K

all this equals to 1420,34K
and considering total manpower is at 2170K
2170-1420.34 = 749.66

even with 300K loses, there is more then 400K missing, is there something I'm missing here?

 

[Alex_brunius]

The losses seemed to be 700k almost based on the reply so that should account for most of the "missing" manpower I think.

 

[Secret Master]

The tooltip needs to tell us what's left in the current mobilisation pool and how many per month are mobilised

Yeah. It's hard to determine some things if I don't know how and when I'll get another batch of manpower.

 

[fabius]

Yeah. It's hard to determine some things if I don't know how and when I'll get another batch of manpower.

Exactly I just had to do mental math to work out that actually I need to change manpower law soon.

Tooltip aside, I love the change. Having manpower trickle in is way more immersive for the player.

 

[thunderchild]

I´m also having Manpower problems with nationalist China, soon reaching 0 at early war with Japan.

My numbers are even worse:

Maybe this could be a bug?

 

[Zwirbaum]

I´m also having Manpower problems with nationalist China, soon reaching 0 at early war with Japan.

My numbers are even worse:

View attachment 345192

Maybe this could be a bug?

You're on total mobilization (-3% manpower) and limited conscription (+2.5% manpower) for a total of -0.5% manpower. Change recruitment law, or resign from Total Mobilization.

 

[thunderchild]

You're on total mobilization (-3% manpower) and limited conscription (+2.5% manpower) for a total of -0.5% manpower. Change recruitment law, or resign from Total Mobilization.

So that´s the problem! Thanks, really didn´t see it and now i´m feeling stupid lol

 

[Alex_brunius]

So that´s the problem! Thanks, really didn´t see it and now i´m feeling stupid lol

Recruiting 7.1 million men to the Army and then send 8.5 millions of them to work in factories

 

[Less2]

Recruiting 7.1 million men to the Army and then send 8.5 millions of them to work in factories

Funny thing is it's a viable strategy so long as you can wrap up whatever you're doing and don't have to fight again for a few years.

 

[AmpsterMan]

I´m also having Manpower problems with nationalist China, soon reaching 0 at early war with Japan.

My numbers are even worse:

View attachment 345192

Maybe this could be a bug?

As a general rule, only do total mobilization if you have extensive conscription OR National Focus that give percentage recruitable OR have doctrines that give recruitable pops

 

[Zwirbaum]

As a general rule, only do total mobilization if you have extensive conscription OR National Focus that give percentage recruitable OR have doctrines that give recruitable pops

Or you can enact Women in Workforce decision