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Indeed, bad IC. Cores on all of China should not be unrealistic, since a renewed Qing empire is something more likely to be tolerated that the previous Japanese occupation.

Also, move capital to Beijing. :)
 

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Although ROC has been defeated there's still plenty of work to be done before China is united.

Now that you have conquered Eastern China, there's still matter of kicking the Japs out of the Western China. And after that there's Tibet, which pretends to be independent, and Russian protectorates of Mongolia and Tuva which rightfully belong to Qing China.
 

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EVERYTHING belongs to Qing China :p
I'll move now to edit in cores. Bah it will be a real chore.
 

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EVERYTHING belongs to Qing China :p
I'll move now to edit in cores. Bah it will be a real chore.

Copy and past the (default) nationalist China cores into your own, then add inthe extra cores you made.
 

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Copy and past the (default) nationalist China cores into your own, then add inthe extra cores you made.

That's what i ddi in the end. Just deleted the Shanxi ones, and voila there i was. I didnt edit in the rest of the cores yet of provinces i havent conquered until now. I continued to play half a year in advance, you'll get an update by this evening.
 

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Interesting Schu, please continue.
 

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Well, that much for an update. I got none, i am sorry. But i played through til 1945 already, and you get one for tomorrow. i promise.
 

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Well, that much for an update. I got none, i am sorry. But i played through til 1945 already, and you get one for tomorrow. i promise.
It is tomorrow, where is update?:mad: ;)
 

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Update VII: Continued struggle

With China subjugated and pacified, the glorious manchurian army advanced further into the backwaters of China, while the guns in Korea remained silent. For the last part of 1943, advances were slow due to terrain, but victories were sound, and nearly every fleeing army perished under the fire from manchurian divebombers.


With the industrial output greatly increased and still rising, there arose the need for Manchuria to secure vital resource rich areas, in order to prosper, but in the first place, to keep up. Due to the rather belligerent nature of Manchuria and it's lack of experience in international relations, large concessions had to be made in order to get the vital resources Manchuria needed. A first drastic need was raw materials. With divisions of ever increasing complexity and high tech, more materials were needed than China provided. First and foremost oil was need to run the backbone of the Manchurian forces, the dive bombers. Unoccupied Indonesia had this in great stock, but in order to get 70 units of oil, 90 supply units were needed to be expended in order to get the oil. Equally important were rare materials, especially needed for the construction of a new backbone of the army, motorized infantry. "Nebelwerfer", cheap rocket artillery licensed from the germans were to be used alongside the new mot. Addtionally convoys and troop transports were to be made for the future.


Japan, meanwhile, drove more and more into India, pushing the british defenders aside.


Towards the end of the year of 1943, the manchurian army reached Indochina, and advancing into it. 2 Goals were set by Pu Yi: first occupying the entirety of Indochina including Siam before anyone else could and second to at least secure the vital parts of indochina, namely the rare producing provinces. Contracts with the Soviet union were immensely expensive which seriously hindered the industrial capacity being used in a better way. Advance, alas, was slow, as now transports were yet available, and the japanese navy had not yet been destroyed by the american.


In early december, the first Motorized Divisions were in place and set to org up near the korean border. The final offensive, once indochina was secured, was to take place to liberate Korea.


The offensive slowly but steadily ground towards securing Indochina, and by March of 1944, most of Vietnam and northwestern Indochina were occupied. An invasion of the Indonesian islands by the japanese forces were under way, and for a short while threatened the manchurian effort to secure vital resources, in this case oil. However the efforts of Japan remained fruitless, and besides some shipping losses, most of the materials were still safely sent to ports in Manchurian held territory. The US, by early 1944, which recovered from the initial shock were bound to retake losses and starting an offensive. A race, not completely expected, was udnerway in order to take Indochina. Alas, the most valuable provinces of Indochina north of Singapore were far out of reach and would soon fall under American rule.
The front in northwestern China was one which didnt get much attention, nevertheless it was quite important for Manchuria. With securing the Kangding road in the Yunnan mountains west of Chongqing, a vital supply route of the Japanes was interrupted, and for the rest of the war this area was completely unsupplied, the unlucky japanese in that giant pocket had to fend for themselves.


By May of 1944, Manchurian forces were deep in Siam, and Japanese troops in Indochina had long before surrendered. Bangkok fell on May 1, with the rest of Siam soon to follow. The americans, alas, secured most parts of Malaysia already, and with it the most resource rich regions of that area. UK, in the meanwhile, resumed the offensive and drove the Japanese back to Burma.


In Mid 1944, Italy resumed it's african offensive, after beign kicked out of it a year before. 2 offensives were started at the same time, the landing in Palestine however was ill-fated, the other one, on the other hand, was to secure most of Italian Libya before August.


The Success in Africa however was completely overshadowed by the imminent defeat of Germany. After it had successfully beat any previous offensives of the SU back the the big rivers (the names escape me at the moment) and what look like solidifcation of the front, the Soviet Union was finally fed up with German resistance, and began violently disrupting any hopes of Germany holding longer. In a serious of weeks, The SU ate large chunks of Ukraine, the Baltics, Belorussia and was already knocking on the door of East Prussia.


As if the matter wasnt bad in the first place, the Americans started overlord in Cholet. It was a pityful attempt though which was beaten back soundly into the atlantic, notice however the ever worsening conditions on the Ostfront, which tbh collapsed quite soundly and more quickly than i had expected. Somethign major must have happened in that period. Ironically, Italy advanced steadily into Libya and into Egypt later.



Ok, that's it for now, i'll get back to it tomorrow, at the latest.


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Edits done:
- added cores of the puppet China to Manchuria
- edited build priorities of Germany (not that it helped much...)
 
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Excellent progress!

I suggest you to release puppet nations in the southeast Asia (Indochina, Siam, Burma) when the region is secure, that would improve your image (showing you are re-unificating China, not ruthlessly ravaging Asia).
 

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I don't understand why you build motorized infantry? Mountaineers and marines would be much better in the mountains and jungles...
 

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I don't understand why you build motorized infantry? Mountaineers and marines would be much better in the mountains and jungles...

There are however quite good in northern/central China (lot of plains), and India.
 

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Yeah, I guess they are better on the long term when he advances there. :)
 

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..? How come SU is winning? :O
 

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Excellent progress!

I suggest you to release puppet nations in the southeast Asia (Indochina, Siam, Burma) when the region is secure, that would improve your image (showing you are re-unificating China, not ruthlessly ravaging Asia).

I'll prolly release Indochina, to get more out of the rares. they also get nice bonus IC plus bonus resources, plus they secure the area. Then again it's IndoCHINA, so i might as well keep it. On the bright side, after i conquered it all, i have a net surplus everywhere, with 200+ IC. So i am still undecided.

I don't understand why you build motorized infantry? Mountaineers and marines would be much better in the mountains and jungles...
There are however quite good in northern/central China (lot of plains), and India.
Yeah, I guess they are better on the long term when he advances there. :)

That's what i was thinking. All the stupid terrain is over now. They will aid me in Europe, Russia, central asia and the US later. Hopefully. I just built a total of 18 though, my bul will be mechanized inf, some ARM and maybe heli-cav.

..? How come SU is winning? :O

Very good question. What is not directly shown by screenies is their initial advance, which was soundly repelled. At one time they had the perfect border at the to rivers (western ukraine, belarus, lithuania and half latvia).

I got 3 possible explanations:

1. They finally build up forces that could successfully make headway towards Germany
2. Up until May 1944 Romania was for some reason not at war with the SU and Axis, as usual, and they were democratic. So there never was that coup. Seeing though they had 70+ divisions, i thought it'd be a waste to not have them axis. SO i edited them in. Those units then immideately became German and were redeployed. So for some reason it might have offset the balance, leading to the rapid downfall.

I think 1 was long overdue. They had 50+ more ing, and twice the number of ARM. But Germany managed to hold on so long, they had this border for almost 1 or more years. Especially considering the rapid decline later. You'll see in the next update i am preparing right after i post this, that Germany falters within a couple of months. And the SU becomes a mighty IC monster. I am talking 750+ IC here.

It's a shame really Italy did so well, all for nothing. With Vichy gone in that Darlan event, Italy rule a good bit of Egypt, all of Algeria (defeating the french forces that appear in Algiers (some 2-3 ARM plus 2-4 Mot). It's a shame really. Italy was virtually empty when it was overrun by the SU.

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Back to the game, i need some input from you guys.

Once the SU has almost all of Western Europe bar Spain, what should i do? I am very inclined to set hostility of the allies vs. the SU at maximum, and might edit in a war, to spice things up. Plus allying Franco with allies, maybe Turkey.
- Yes, no?

Also, once we reach 1946 or so (with Germany fallen, there is no direct need for the Atom bomb), should i create the necessary reactors for the US to make them throw atom bombs? Note that not only the SU, but eventually i myself may become victim of this. Would certainly spice things up.
- Yes, no?
 

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The fact SU is winning without the player help is awesome. Just awesome. It's the first time I see them emerging victorius, except when a premature WW2 happened.

Well, good luck beating the Red Bear and her massive IC!
 

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Spain's affinity for the axis was based primarily on Franco's desire for revenge on the USSR because of their intervention in the Spanish Civil War. He sent 3 divisions to the Russian front but avoided joining the war in order to not upset the Allies. So having them join the allies is appropriate. They in fact became a US ally after WW2.
As for leaders you could justifiably add the Shanxi leaders, and perhaps any warlord leaders after you take their territories. You can also consider adding some of the Communist Chinese leaders or the Nationalist Chinese leaders who refused to serve Japanese-puppet China.
 

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Update VIII: Now fall already

As Germany kept collapsing, something unexpected happened. The Patch Project which provided us with the lovely Patch 1.3 made some events fire correctly, spawning a Polish puppet. Quite cool really. Meanwhile, Romania and Bulgaria, those greedy opportunists, switched sides already, and Hungary was just about to. Italy makes further progress, already heading into Egyptian territory.


Now if this wasnt already bad enough, that darn Darlan event fired. Italy had an even larger Italy to defend. It went like this - France from ALgiers captured most of it back, but then Italy made mutiple landings, and in the end destroyed the french there, and holding the americans back a wee bit, they are numbering some 20+ divisions there already. Not too shabby, not at all. A pity they'll get completely occupied by the SU later...


Meanwhile, from time to time my CAS set out for naval bombing actually find a fleet, this time a huge one, mostly lvl 6 CVs. a pity i set my 50+ bombers to kill it :D Killed the lvl4 one at least before they disengaged, plus some minor ones.


In October 1944 already, the Red Army knocked on the Hitlerbunker's door. Germany just melted in front of the might of the Red Army. The encirclement in Serbia was only temporarily. Free France's greatest extent in Algeria before the Italians made them pay. At this stage in the game the most important action was in Europe. In Asia it was just plain occupying action, but i set up for an assault of Korea in late 1944.


Late October: Berlin taken, Red army advancing into Germany proper, balkans almost completely occupied, Italy ripping apart free french efforts to consolidate their gains. Also Italians checking American efforts to establish stronghold in Morocco. Greece falling.


The long awaited yet ill-fated attempt to establish a bridgehead after the old trusted method of divide an conquer in early November of 1944. 18 MOT+47INF+42divebombers make an attempt at Hyesan. Due to bad weather and snow and ice and mountains, the effort was worthless shit. And dont ask my why i stacked so strange. But the attack was so soundly repulsed, i dont think i could have succeeded with far more favroable stacking in Liaoyuan and Andong.


Meanwhile in late November of 1944, almost unchecked soviet advance in middle europe. Balkans completely fallen, Italian core territory occupied, east germany completely occupied, southern part being occupied atm. Back in Africa, Italy has defeated the free french army and is now in defense against the americans.


The attack that should have been: Unchecked invasion of 18 Manchurian Motorized divisions in Pyongyang, set to cut the peninsula in half.


And more lucky than intelligence on my part, those 18 mots just made it ashore until a 14 ship japanese navy ripped through my unguarded transport force. As you can see, only 17 out of 20 made it back to port, 18 just an hour early emerged from those. Really lucky there.


Mid december of 1944, after some reshuffling of troops and before that some ill-fated attacks, we stacked up in Pyongyang. I failed miserably to create connwection between Pyongyang and Andong, for reason i dont fully comprehend. 51 divisions attacking a defending stack of 10 japanese divisions, with constant air raiding seems to do nothing. Only hilly terrain. The river plays into a lot of it, as well as the frozen ground. But comeon, 5-1 advantage + constant air raids? Still at a loss myself. The quick success i had hoped for though turned out to be a proper disaster, and my stack at Pyongyang got almost wiped out a couple of times. quite a stain on Pu Yi's glory until now.


Fast forward to January of 1945. The Soviet advance was slowed down in Germany, for unknown reason. Italy, in the meantime, is in it's death throes. US advancing, UK checking advance in Africa, and a SU that has almost completely occupied undefended mainland italy. Check SU IC.
AND WTF HAPPENED TO STALIN???? I just noticed that now! Ok who is that guy? did i miss anything? Weird, to say the least. My screens dating back to August 44 already show him in command. This is... most unusual? Might be Beria? I'll have to check in game.


And that's how far it goes as of now. :)
Will play it further come tomorrow. I need to head off to bed now.
Hope you enjoyed this so far.

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The fact SU is winning without the player help is awesome. Just awesome. It's the first time I see them emerging victorius, except when a premature WW2 happened.

Well, good luck beating the Red Bear and her massive IC!

They might be winning due to the fact of me editing some savegames and difficulty settings. But it is not unusual for me, though. If Germany doesnt get Moscow in the first place, they usually lose. This time they did not (in fact AI was set for Seelöwe, and even got some units ashore until they were repulsed, have one screenie of it, didnt notice it myself until i did pic editing for my AAR. Will dig it out) in this game, and i foresaw them lose. Also they had less IC the whole time, it was inevitable - more IC, more MP and in the late game, better doctrines.

EDIT: Here it is. Was originally meant to capture the event that the civil war in Spain is over. It was only later i saw the landing in eastern England.


Spain's affinity for the axis was based primarily on Franco's desire for revenge on the USSR because of their intervention in the Spanish Civil War. He sent 3 divisions to the Russian front but avoided joining the war in order to not upset the Allies. So having them join the allies is appropriate. They in fact became a US ally after WW2.

That's how i was going to justify it. I'll do that once i figure out how it'll work in my story.

As for leaders you could justifiably add the Shanxi leaders, and perhaps any warlord leaders after you take their territories. You can also consider adding some of the Communist Chinese leaders or the Nationalist Chinese leaders who refused to serve Japanese-puppet China.

Already got Shanxi leaders, and i think i added Guangxi ones. Good catch about the commies, also will include troops from Yunnan, Sinkiang and that green warlord whose name i just forget, the puppet of NatChi. And probably still some random chinese ones, maybe half of them. Should suffice.
 
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