I feel that Manchuria right now needs a bit of a fix. with "Udege" tag not being where Udege tag belongs, Nivkh using copypasted Manchu names (not even in the same language family, come on!) and having not one but two synonymous "generic" flags (Yeren, Donghai). So in this suggestion I will repurpose Yeren and Donghai into more sensible tags, as well as generally making this region more accurate.
This is my suggested 1444 setup.
Ainu now owns Sakhalin and the Kurils. This is because these regions were Ainu too, not just Hokkaido. This also makes Ainu a bit more interesting.
Nivkh now doesn't have it's core territory as different religions, northern Sakhalin should start off Tengri. Also a new Nivkh culture which exists in all of their provinces. For a list of Nivkh male and female names to use, go here. If you do not want Nivkh culture, just have Nivkh use these names in common/countries rather than copy pasting from Manchus. They also start with the Amur Estuary in Deren (renamed into Tyr)
Solon has been expanded to include the originally Oroqen land that Yeren starts with. The Oroqen can deserve their own tag, but overall, without adding new tags, this is better. I would add an Oroqen tag here if there was space for it. Also the province of Urkan is renamed "Albazin", and Solon's capital moves to this province.
Udege has been moved to copy where Donghai goes right now, as that is where Udege people live. Possibility to either rename this tag "Orochon" (a name including Udege and the Orochs), or "Woji". Should still use Udege flag.
Donghai has been moved inland and it would be renamed "Nanai" (or "Hurha", if Udege is renamed Woji). For it's flag, use this, as I cannot find a single reference to the current Donghai flag outside of EU4.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Nanaysky_rayon_(Khabarovsk_kray).png).
Yeren has been also moved, and renamed "Xibe". The Xibe were subjugated by Korchin in 1438, so they should start as a vassal of Korchin in-game and possibly have a truce. Also, this should be Xibe's flag:
Jianzhou's capital should be Hetu Ala, as Huncun was not in the traditional Jianzhou territory anyways, and Hetu Ala was the base of the Aisin Gioro.. Haixi's capital should also move to Yehe as that's the base of the Yehe tribe, leaders of Haixi in-game.
A Warka tag composing Fu'erhe, Furdan, Huncun and Ningguta would be nice but is kinda optional.
Province Renames
Deren (1050) -> Tyr
Tyr was an actual Nivkh village (Deren was Ulchi), the city currently matches Tyr rather than Deren, and Tyr was the center of the Nurgan Comission which was disestablished less than 10 years prior to 1444. This province should also host the Amur Estuary.
Ulch (4216) -> Oroch
Ulch people lived in the province north of this, mainly, while the area of this province was inhabited by Orochs instead. Potential city name can be Datta.
Kalar (4214) -> Ulch
This is where Ulchs lived, rather than the current province. City name should be Tehcha (modern Bogorodskoye)
Urkan (2102) -> Albazin
Albazin was the capital of the Solon Khanate irl, and would be a city of importance in the area. I would ideally shift Halacha to include Albazin, but I wanna be somewhat conservative here.
Wolanhe (4656) -> Samarga
Major river here, one of the main centers of the Udege, prime location for their new capital.
Shilimian (4655) -> Sydagou
Could not find where this province's name comes from, so it's named after a river here.
Kuru (2105) -> Urmi
Could not find where this province's name comes from, so it's named after a river here.
Yaran (1850) -> Tarfun
Could not find where this province's name comes from, so it's named after a river here.
Edala (4661) -> Ula
Could not find where this province's name comes from, so it's named after the Ula and their main center.
Nangha'er (4658) -> Noglvo
Could not find where this province's name comes from, so it's named after a Nivkh settlement in modern Nogliki.
Sakhalin (1033) -> Enchiw
This province is not all of Sakhalin anymore. This is the name of the Sakhalin Ainu.
Ainu now owns Sakhalin and the Kurils. This is because these regions were Ainu too, not just Hokkaido. This also makes Ainu a bit more interesting.
Nivkh now doesn't have it's core territory as different religions, northern Sakhalin should start off Tengri. Also a new Nivkh culture which exists in all of their provinces. For a list of Nivkh male and female names to use, go here. If you do not want Nivkh culture, just have Nivkh use these names in common/countries rather than copy pasting from Manchus. They also start with the Amur Estuary in Deren (renamed into Tyr)
Solon has been expanded to include the originally Oroqen land that Yeren starts with. The Oroqen can deserve their own tag, but overall, without adding new tags, this is better. I would add an Oroqen tag here if there was space for it. Also the province of Urkan is renamed "Albazin", and Solon's capital moves to this province.
Udege has been moved to copy where Donghai goes right now, as that is where Udege people live. Possibility to either rename this tag "Orochon" (a name including Udege and the Orochs), or "Woji". Should still use Udege flag.
Donghai has been moved inland and it would be renamed "Nanai" (or "Hurha", if Udege is renamed Woji). For it's flag, use this, as I cannot find a single reference to the current Donghai flag outside of EU4.
Yeren has been also moved, and renamed "Xibe". The Xibe were subjugated by Korchin in 1438, so they should start as a vassal of Korchin in-game and possibly have a truce. Also, this should be Xibe's flag:
Jianzhou's capital should be Hetu Ala, as Huncun was not in the traditional Jianzhou territory anyways, and Hetu Ala was the base of the Aisin Gioro.. Haixi's capital should also move to Yehe as that's the base of the Yehe tribe, leaders of Haixi in-game.
A Warka tag composing Fu'erhe, Furdan, Huncun and Ningguta would be nice but is kinda optional.
Province Renames
Deren (1050) -> Tyr
Tyr was an actual Nivkh village (Deren was Ulchi), the city currently matches Tyr rather than Deren, and Tyr was the center of the Nurgan Comission which was disestablished less than 10 years prior to 1444. This province should also host the Amur Estuary.
Ulch (4216) -> Oroch
Ulch people lived in the province north of this, mainly, while the area of this province was inhabited by Orochs instead. Potential city name can be Datta.
Kalar (4214) -> Ulch
This is where Ulchs lived, rather than the current province. City name should be Tehcha (modern Bogorodskoye)
Urkan (2102) -> Albazin
Albazin was the capital of the Solon Khanate irl, and would be a city of importance in the area. I would ideally shift Halacha to include Albazin, but I wanna be somewhat conservative here.
Wolanhe (4656) -> Samarga
Major river here, one of the main centers of the Udege, prime location for their new capital.
Shilimian (4655) -> Sydagou
Could not find where this province's name comes from, so it's named after a river here.
Kuru (2105) -> Urmi
Could not find where this province's name comes from, so it's named after a river here.
Yaran (1850) -> Tarfun
Could not find where this province's name comes from, so it's named after a river here.
Edala (4661) -> Ula
Could not find where this province's name comes from, so it's named after the Ula and their main center.
Nangha'er (4658) -> Noglvo
Could not find where this province's name comes from, so it's named after a Nivkh settlement in modern Nogliki.
Sakhalin (1033) -> Enchiw
This province is not all of Sakhalin anymore. This is the name of the Sakhalin Ainu.
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