Manchuko Steel

[ShoGuL]

I seem to recall that in previous versions you could 'trade' for your puppets resources without having to pay them factories for them. This doesn't seem to be possible anymore.

So has Japan simply lost a large part of their steel production and has to trade two civilian factories to Manchuko relatively early? (the factories seeming to go straight into consumer goods, since manchuko starts with just 1 civilian factory...).

Note that I don't yet have the DLC since I have no interest in playing commonwealth nations. Is it an autonomy thing?

 

[Tacticus101]

Depending on how integrated the puppet is you get different efficiency levels for trading resources.

Japan can take all of Manchukuo's steel (and I mean all 36) for the price of 1 civilian factory, which they then get back due to them being an integrated puppet and nice rounding. Its actually really good, Manchukuo will take all the focusses for factories, which you get a large chunk of, and build their own army, which you also get.

 

[ShoGuL]

Is that a DLC only feature?

 

[Sleight of Hand]

If you have the DLC, you get the full array of puppets, from integrated to dominion.

If you don't have the DLC, you just have the one type of puppet, like we had before today.

 

[podcat]

If you have the DLC, you get the full array of puppets, from integrated to dominion.

If you don't have the DLC, you just have the one type of puppet, like we had before today.

yeah, we still use the rules though and the system now has a gradient of how much you pay for trade with puppets. For regular puppet its 10% of normal if I recall which is what they will be.

 

[Tacticus101]

Yes, it is a DLC only feature.

And it costs you 3 factories to trade for the 18 steel Manchukuo has without the DLC. So I don't think the system is applying without the DLC active.


Edit: I have tested, it seems that with the DLC disabled you trade with Puppets at normal rates, 1 civ factory per 8 resources. That is a huge nerf.

Hoping it is a bug podcat!!!

 

[ShoGuL]

Yeah.. that sounds like a bug then? Since you have to pay full price to trade with puppets if you don't have the DLC.

 

[podcat]

Will check

 

[podcat]

Yes, its a bug. will move this to bug forum and code a fix so its the same cost as if you got DLC (10%) (read: remove check for these calculations so it follows scripted stuff)

 

[Tacticus101]

Thanks for the quick responses and action podcat!!!