Managing a growing vassal

[unmerged(70111)]

Hi All,

In my game, I am Burgundy and Brittany is one of my Vassals. They are doing alright now that the big blue bully is no longer around (they are my vassal too).
So they are colonising much of South and North America, while I am playing a land game (full land focus), slowly sweeping my way across Europe (getting a tad boring, I admit). I dont want to annex them yet as they are doing quite well and I have no colonising capabilities, but I fear that if i don'y they may soon become a pain in the arse (that word is coming up with the red squiggly line underneath, but it shouldn't).

What do you reckon?

 

[apsycobear]

He will never revolt from you. You'll be fine.

 

[zedyue]

He will never revolt from you. You'll be fine.

This.
EU3 has no mechanic for vassal revolting or general diplomacy. They always heed your calls to war too. Only player nations can break away or declare war on their ruling nation.
I think it's rather shallow but it is what it is.

 

[unmerged(70111)]

Thanks guys,
this is my first shot at a big vassalised army. This game i am doing a lot of quick seiges and then settling for vassalage with only 4 infamy. rather than taking bigger scalps and then waiting for it to go down.. So far, i would say its been pretty successful.

 

[zedyue]

Thanks guys,
this is my first shot at a big vassalised army. This game i am doing a lot of quick seiges and then settling for vassalage with only 4 infamy. rather than taking bigger scalps and then waiting for it to go down.. So far, i would say its been pretty successful.

Best way to play in the HRE. That and inheriting.

 

[Andy_Dandy]

Yeah, I wish you did get greater problems keeping your vassals happy. It's so easy to go the vassalize route.

 

[Ashantai]

If you have no interest in colonising or navy, there's no need ever to annex them. Rather, let them colonise so that others don't get there first.

Remember, if you diploannex you get one infamy for each province - naturally an issue when they have 20+ provinces!

 

[Umega]

Are vassals still subordinate to you even if your relations with them are like -200? Would there be a greater chance of them breaking from you if you are a complete bully to them? I've always kept relations with my vassals above 0.

 

[unmerged(70111)]

If you have no interest in colonising or navy, there's no need ever to annex them. Rather, let them colonise so that others don't get there first.

Remember, if you diploannex you get one infamy for each province - naturally an issue when they have 20+ provinces!

I Guess because 100% income is better than 30% tribute?

I may have to diplo Annex them last.

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Also i think i can recall, in the past, they all turned on me when my infamy went through the roof. Could be wrong though.

 

[Xeorm]

I've found that vassals declare against you if your infamy goes over the limit, wrong religion vassals much sooner than others.

But I haven't seen any other time when vassals will declare against you.

 

[Casiru]

Go despotic monarchy and max your legitimacy if you need to annex a mega vassal. Its unlikely they are going to have more than 40 provinces, even if they are godlike colonists.
Unless your going for a world conquer its actually pretty nice having a mega vassals army fighting your wars for you. Get FRA and SPA in PU with you and you don't even need to build troops anymore.

 

[viale]

I Guess because 100% income is better than 30% tribute?

I may have to diplo Annex them last.

It is not that simple. how about wrong culture and religion, the extra cost for stability/tech. And in this case a sudden need for a huge navy. Which means extra maintenance and expenses. Then you have to worry about building up infrastructure and converting your new provinces. All while you spend the next 50+ years fighting rebels everywhere.

I would rather keep them strong and friendly

 

[The-King]

Vassals can revolt from you but its unlikely, it depends on your general strength. I played an 2PM poland with all of europe vassalised and when i went reformed it removed all of my alliances (its just a game mechanic when converting religions), however when this happened some of my vassals decided they didn't want to be my vassals anymore and started to declare war on me. To make sure a vassal will NEVER break away you just form an alliance with them.

 

[king hannibal]

There's really no need for you to annex them, and if you keep them allied, then they'll help you in wars, which means you want them big, so they can have a big army. And if you keep them allied, they can't break away, so it's a win-win situation.