Mamluks and Egypt, do we need both?

[szmik]

first of all there's Mamluk event

#(1786-1808) The Independence of the Mamluks in Egypt
#by RepublicofGenoa
event = {
	id = 24059
	trigger = { [COLOR=Green]event = 3398[/COLOR] }
	random = no
	country = MAM
	name = "EVENTNAME3398" #The Independence of the Mamluks in Egypt
	desc = "EVENTHIST24059"
	#-#Egypt has gained autonomy from the Ottomans.

	date = { day = 29 month = june year = 1786 }
	offset = 72
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1808 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME24059A" #Egypt controls it's own destiny
		command = { type = addcore which = 748 } #Batn al Hajar
		command = { type = addcore which = 749 } #Nubia
		command = { type = remove_countryculture which = georgian }
		command = { type = add_countryculture which = arabic }
		command = { type = INF which = 746 value = 5000 } #Egypt
		command = { type = CAV which = 746 value = 1000 } #Egypt
		command = { type = ART which = 746 value = 30 } #Egypt
		command = { type = relation which = TUR value = -150 } [COLOR=Green]#don't want reannexed[/COLOR]
	}
}

Ottoman event 3398 gives independence to Egypt (EGY) or revolts Egyptian provinces as a choice b. I guess this Mamluks event is here in case of b choice, but the last comment suggests they should somehow get independence through event.
Now the question: why there's need for both countries in Egypt? Do you really need both tags used? What for?
In revolt.txt both countries have possibility to revolt from each other after 1768 which seems a bit weird.

I propose to remove Egypt (EGY tag) and just change Mamluks flag in 18th century in case they reappear in game. And change Ottoman event 3398 so they give independence to MAMluks as a choice a.

What you think?

 

[Toio]

first of all there's Mamluk event

#(1786-1808) The Independence of the Mamluks in Egypt
#by RepublicofGenoa
event = {
	id = 24059
	trigger = { [COLOR=Green]event = 3398[/COLOR] }
	random = no
	country = MAM
	name = "EVENTNAME3398" #The Independence of the Mamluks in Egypt
	desc = "EVENTHIST24059"
	#-#Egypt has gained autonomy from the Ottomans.

	date = { day = 29 month = june year = 1786 }
	offset = 72
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1808 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME24059A" #Egypt controls it's own destiny
		command = { type = addcore which = 748 } #Batn al Hajar
		command = { type = addcore which = 749 } #Nubia
		command = { type = remove_countryculture which = georgian }
		command = { type = add_countryculture which = arabic }
		command = { type = INF which = 746 value = 5000 } #Egypt
		command = { type = CAV which = 746 value = 1000 } #Egypt
		command = { type = ART which = 746 value = 30 } #Egypt
		command = { type = relation which = TUR value = -150 } [COLOR=Green]#don't want reannexed[/COLOR]
	}
}

Ottoman event 3398 gives independence to Egypt (EGY) or revolts Egyptian provinces as a choice b. I guess this Mamluks event is here in case of b choice, but the last comment suggests they should somehow get independence through event.
Now the question: why there's need for both countries in Egypt? Do you really need both tags used? What for?
In revolt.txt both countries have possibility to revolt from each other after 1768 which seems a bit weird.

I propose to remove Egypt (EGY tag) and just change Mamluks flag in 18th century in case they reappear in game. And change Ottoman event 3398 so they give independence to MAMluks as a choice a.

What you think?

good idea, never noticed that we had egypt tag,

MAMS where around when fighting napoleon so its historical

 

[Garbon]

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=184192&page=1&pp=25

Here is where the matter was initially discussed.

 

[szmik]

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=184192&page=1&pp=25

Here is where the matter was initially discussed.

There is inconsistency then, as event above removes caucasian culture and adds arabic, just like there was no Egypt at all and Mamluks were supposed to become Egypt late in game. Second problem lies in revolters file.

Therefore there're 3 possibilities:
1. get rid of EGY tag and make Mamluk Egyptians through event(s)... actually event already exists.
2. change Mamluk revolters deathdate to 1768 and remove event above, or make it EGY independence event.
3. it's WAD to have both EGY and MAM in late Egypt territory, so there's no need to change anything.

Considering all this I'm wondering what would happen if Mamluks wasn't annexed by Ottomans. Shouldn't they become Egyptians in culture terms at some point?