Making money

[unmerged(77251)]

Here comes the second question of the day (see bankruptcy effects thread): how do you guys make money in EU2 ?
1- Is the only way to increase treasury minting ?
2- If true, when do you mint (> to reduce inflation) in early game ?

Thanks for your time,

qwerkus

 

[nightmorphis]

obviously not, you can have money also trading, winning wars, producing goods or by events

 

[Lord Finnish]

Colonizing is best way to earn money, but you'll need little money to colonize.

Starting money can be gained by robbing small countries and demanding vassal and all money they have. Annexing in early game usually isn't the best choise. Except as OE.

 

[BurningEGO]

Annexing in early game usually isn't the best choise. Except as OE.

I disagree. OE is the only one that cannot be bothered to waste BB points on annexing 1 province minors. OE has many religions inside itself - if you go on a rampage annexing every 1 province minor you see, you will get an ounstanding BB, and an enourmous stability cost as a result.

And we dont want a huge stability cost, do we preciousss?

 

[unmerged(40707)]

According to EU2 rules, yes but it depends if you want OE to go historical... That's why we added BB reduction events for OE if it owns some key provinces in AGCEEP.

 

[unmerged(4344)]

The OE should annex Byzantium, but only Byzantium. The other one-province minors in its turf it should use an annexation ally for. Other major powers should not annex anybody. Doing an annexation is occasionally a good way to start with a one-province minor, i.e., if you start within striking range of Mecklemburg.

As for the OPs questions, you get gold in treasury in just four ways in EU2:
(1) census taxes
(2) tribute, in peace treaties
(3) minting
(4) events

Since you can't control events (for the most part), you can see that the only way to increase treasury is either minting, or wars. (I am assuming you have promoted tax collectors.) In wars, you can:
(a) take new provinces, increasing your census taxes
(b) do synchronized looting
(c) get 100% warscore, then wait around for a few years (while looting), and get the AI to pay you off a lot for peace

Thus, it's very important, when trying to get a fast start, to be able to win wars cheaply in terms of not losing lots of expensive troops. If you lose 10000 cavalry in a war, you'd better be getting a nice load of loot from it or it was not worthwhile. If you can prevail in a war losing only 2000 cavalry, then you can make that up pretty easily in reparations.

 

[unmerged(77251)]

The OE should annex Byzantium, but only Byzantium. The other one-province minors in its turf it should use an annexation ally for. Other major powers should not annex anybody. Doing an annexation is occasionally a good way to start with a one-province minor, i.e., if you start within striking range of Mecklemburg.

As for the OPs questions, you get gold in treasury in just four ways in EU2:
(1) census taxes
(2) tribute, in peace treaties
(3) minting
(4) events

Since you can't control events (for the most part), you can see that the only way to increase treasury is either minting, or wars. (I am assuming you have promoted tax collectors.) In wars, you can:
(a) take new provinces, increasing your census taxes
(b) do synchronized looting
(c) get 100% warscore, then wait around for a few years (while looting), and get the AI to pay you off a lot for peace

Thus, it's very important, when trying to get a fast start, to be able to win wars cheaply in terms of not losing lots of expensive troops. If you lose 10000 cavalry in a war, you'd better be getting a nice load of loot from it or it was not worthwhile. If you can prevail in a war losing only 2000 cavalry, then you can make that up pretty easily in reparations.

Thank you very much ! That one was very clear: I'll have to hire troops... As of the census taxes, is it just an impression or do you really earn it only the 1st of january ?

 

[MichaelM]

As of the census taxes, is it just an impression or do you really earn it only the 1st of january ?

Yes (to the second one ).

 

[Lord Finnish]

I don't think BB is so big problem as OE. Especially with a mapmod you got so many provinces insive yourself none dares to attack you.


Except the Venetians.