Make assigning provinces to clients less painful

[kviiri]

Yesterday I was cheerfully conquering the lands along the Levant as Genoa. I had the intention to take a stretch of the Eastern Mediterranean coastline and create a new client state of it. So was born the sister republic of Levant. However, after adding the first few provinces I noticed I had a lot of territory I couldn't add to any of my client states. Confused, I checked the Wiki (http://www.eu4wiki.com/Client_state) and found this:

Client states can be created from core or non-core provinces that have a direct land connection to your capital or are on the same continent as your capital.

Turns out the order in which I gave them the provinces caused the first additions to sear the land connection to the rest, making it sadly impossible to give them all the land I'd wanted to. When I loaded an autosave and rearranged the order of province grants, things went smoothly (apart from me being unable to pick the most desirable capital province). This limitation is silly, counterintuitive and needs to be looked at.

Possible solutions for fixing this:

• remove the same continent / land connection requirement altogether
• always allow adding adjacent provinces to client states
• make client states and other vassals count as "land connection" so they can't block themselves receiving new provinces

edit for clarification: I'm not favoring any of these solutions over each other in particular, I'm only concerned with Client States blocking additions to their own lands and I'd prefer any of these solutions over the current system.

 

[kitemasaki]

Yesterday I was cheerfully conquering the lands along the Levant as Genoa. I had the intention to take a stretch of the Eastern Mediterranean coastline and create a new client state of it. So was born the sister republic of Levant. However, after adding the first few provinces I noticed I had a lot of territory I couldn't add to any of my client states. Confused, I checked the Wiki (http://www.eu4wiki.com/Client_state) and found this:



Turns out the order in which I gave them the provinces caused the first additions to sear the land connection to the rest, making it sadly impossible to give them all the land I'd wanted to. When I loaded an autosave and rearranged the order of province grants, things went smoothly (apart from me being unable to pick the most desirable capital province). This limitation is silly, counterintuitive and needs to be looked at.

Possible solutions for fixing this:

• remove the same continent / land connection requirement altogether
• always allow adding adjacent provinces to client states
• make client states and other vassals count as "land connection" so they can't block themselves receiving new provinces

I thought your post was going to be about being able to select multiple provinces as you can in a peace deal. Which is faster than having to click each provinces and assign to a CS.

Unfortunately it is not and instead you are asking to remove the unique attributes/limitations of a client state and the "land connection" modifier, which won't change because it is there for a reason. You'll need a better argument than silly & counter-intuitive.

 

[Danfish77]

I thought your post was going to be about being able to select multiple provinces as you can in a peace deal. Which is faster than having to click each provinces and assign to a CS.

Unfortunately it is not and instead you are asking to remove the unique attributes/limitations of a client state and the "land connection" modifier, which won't change because it is there for a reason. You'll need a better argument than silly & counter-intuitive.

I think the problem is that there is a loophole where the order of adding provinces to a Client State changes whether you can add other provinces. Client States should count their own territory for the adjacency/land connection check.

However I don't agree with removing the same continent or land connection requirement. Once a capital is placed, however, one should be able to add any adjacent territory as one wishes.

 

[kviiri]

Unfortunately it is not and instead you are asking to remove the unique attributes/limitations of a client state and the "land connection" modifier, which won't change because it is there for a reason. You'll need a better argument than silly & counter-intuitive.

What, you really consider the land connection requirement to be the unique attribute of a client state? Wow. And I thought they were about being customized vassals for holding and coring your land for later diploannexation or being reliable allies for future wars. Why don't you tell me why it's a good thing that I can create a client state with Sidon, Tarabulus and Antioch if I add the provinces in that exact order but not in the reverse order?

Also, what's wrong with removing a limitation that's silly and counter-intuitive? That's like refusing treatment for a fungal infection, "you need a better argument than itchy and gross".

 

[kviiri]

However I don't agree with removing the same continent or land connection requirement. Once a capital is placed, however, one should be able to add any adjacent territory as one wishes.

Being always able to add territory already adjacent to a client state is a good solution in my opinion. Though frankly I'd value anything over the current weird limitation. The least they could've done is add a tooltip on the CS button saying why they can't be added to a client state.

 

[Bas Agus Buaidh]

I'd like to add that I'm very much in favour of removing the "same continent or land connection" requirement.

Doing a British campaign atm, trying to recreate the empire at its height. I'd love to be able to create client states like Burma or the presidencies of India.

 

[Reverend Belial]

I'd like to add that I'm very much in favour of removing the "same continent or land connection" requirement.

Doing a British campaign atm, trying to recreate the empire at its height. I'd love to be able to create client states like Burma or the presidencies of India.

This exactly. I was turned off from a potential British playthrough when I learned that the Raj or Hong Kong weren't actually possible to make, or a French colonial empire with Senegal. I'm all for the land connection silliness to go away.

 

[Issac1709]

This exactly. I was turned off from a potential British playthrough when I learned that the Raj or Hong Kong weren't actually possible to make, or a French colonial empire with Senegal. I'm all for the land connection silliness to go away.

I guess you can go into the game files and rename it

 

[Mattius]

I guess you can go into the game files and rename it

And there's not really a Hong Kong province.

 

[Issac1709]

And there's not really a Hong Kong province.

Yea i know, and i kind of live in HK, so i just pretend that HK is really canton. I mean i am sure when we get independence from *NEVER* china we might be able to negotiate that canton should be part of HK on the valid basis of language.

 

[Sunspawn]

Yea i know, and i kind of live in HK, so i just pretend that HK is really canton. I mean i am sure when we get independence from *NEVER* china we might be able to negotiate that canton should be part of HK on the valid basis of language.

Support rebels to make China Mingplode.