Maintain the same color of nations regardless of their government, name or independence status?

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Zeprion

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I find this feature very annoying. You start with white Turkey trying to remake the Ottoman Empire. Then Turkey goes red then Turkey goes green. The color shift is slightly annoying and you also have green Portugal, Italy and Bulgaria in Europe. Not exactly the most inspired color.

Canada's independence used to be a terrible white, because there was a high chance of being at war with white Japan. Now it's a bright red slightly different from UK's red, which is better but not better than the original dark red.

The only color change that I liked more than the original one was Germany's dark grey when removing fascism. Everything else is rather a step down.

Why bother with different colors for the same nation? Why not maintain the same color of nations regardless of their government, name or independence status? It's a lot easier to follow for players.

Formable nations are an exception like Rome, Byzantium or EU. But a country changing government or gaining independence is not the same thing as a formable nation.

Instead of giving multiple colors to the same nation, why not leave it as it is originally to avoid further confusion and instead fix the colors of already existing nation?
- China and Vietnam are both yellow and right next to each other. Vietnam's color could be changed to brown similar to Kenya.
- Japan and Korea are both white and right next to each other. Korea's color could be changed to a non-bright pink similar to Zambia.
Or anything else that doesn't have a high likelyhood of having 2 countries of the same colors next to each other.
 
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I’m fine with independence color changes since a lot of colonies share a color with their master and it’s a visible way for outsiders to see they’re going their own way if they missed the world event. I just wish the color to be a good one

For government changes, it’s case by case basis for me. If they are thematically fitting I like them, if not I dont
 
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I’m fine with independence color changes since a lot of colonies share a color with their master and it’s a visible way for outsiders to see they’re going their own way if they missed the world event. I just wish the color to be a good one

For government changes, it’s case by case basis for me. If they are thematically fitting I like them, if not I dont
What colonies share a color with their master? Their independence can be easily checked by reading their name or clicking on them and seeing whether they are still a puppet.
 

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What colonies share a color with their master? Their independence can be easily checked by reading their name or clicking on them and seeing whether they are still a puppet.

Canada and British Malay are both red-ish which I always interpreted as signifying their closeness to the crown
 
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Canada and British Malay are both red-ish which I always interpreted as signifying their closeness to the crown

But then you have Australia, NZ. Tbh I think all the Dominions to have the color of UK to better represent the Empire.

For the Ottoman Empire, I see why they would want another color than Turkey, but I agree that the Ottomans should not change colors. In the end aren't really the Ottoman Sultanate and Empire the same thing?
 
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I mean, change name with some silly ideological name and remove kings everytime like is automatic for fascism (fascism=/=middle east military dictatorship) doing something similar, sometimes is bad for immersion
 

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Arent the Colour changes symbolising it becoming a new nation as opposed to a name change from changing ideology.

RAJ to India, Burma and Pakistan

Turkey Changes to a red after the civil war because it can still go another direction besides ottomans, Going green only after you have committed to going empire. I like it.

As for Canada changing colour I can only assume that is because north America just got more love when it came to puppets, look at all the different changes and names puppets get there.
 

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Turkey Changes to a red after the civil war because it can still go another direction besides ottomans, Going green only after you have committed to going empire. I like it.

I don't like the shade of green they chose for the Ottomans in the recent DLC actually. It looks far to close to Bulgaria's green, and Bulgaria was nation with a complicated relationship towards the Ottomans, to say the least. The Ottoman color in HOI4 should be closer to the EU4/Victoria II Ottoman color.