Main Trade Node not Global Trade modifier node?

[spuky]

Hey there,

I have my main trade node in Malacca as Ming, but in the tool-tip for if Global Trade can appear in Ming, it says "Canton is the highest valued trade node in the world." instead of Malacca

Any idea why that is? Do I need to move my capital to Malacca as well?

 

[Harfyn]

I had the same thing happen to me - and it wasn't even the trade node my capital was in that it wanted to use for global trade. I was Sweden and My capital was sjaelland, with Lubeck as the 2nd highest valued trade node in the world, but global trade kept telling me that Novogorod was the trade node global trade was most likely to end up in, in my country. For reference, I was also highest trade power in Lubeck and Novgorod ( >40% for each)

 

[spuky]

I had the same thing happen to me - and it wasn't even the trade node my capital was in that it wanted to use for global trade. I was Sweden and My capital was sjaelland, with Lubeck as the 2nd highest valued trade node in the world, but global trade kept telling me that Novogorod was the trade node global trade was most likely to end up in, in my country. For reference, I was also highest trade power in Lubeck and Novgorod ( >40% for each)

It doesn't use the trade node with my capital either (my capital is in Beijing, not Canton)


I just found this thread and it helped me:

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...snt-available-for-global-trade-spawn.1013168/

According to this, the tooltip seems to just not pick up your main trade node and shows just a random one as an example... I'll see if that's true by 1600 I guess

 

[Dunya]

Playing as Ming? If you can't beat them join them, i guess (sorry, still a bit salty about my last japan game where i had to fend them off in about 4 wars before i managed to actually beat them)

Is it fun? I've been thinking about trying it but i've heard the empire of china mechanics are too difficult for blobby nations. Basically if you border a strong nation you have to consume them... What's your experience?

 

[spuky]

As of the topic, once I got Malacca to be the most valuable trade node in the world, the tooltip updated to reflect Malacca and all is good, so it works as soon as you actually fulfill the criteria!

Playing as Ming? If you can't beat them join them, i guess (sorry, still a bit salty about my last japan game where i had to fend them off in about 4 wars before i managed to actually beat them)

Is it fun? I've been thinking about trying it but i've heard the empire of china mechanics are too difficult for blobby nations. Basically if you border a strong nation you have to consume them... What's your experience?

I'm enjoying it, although I had a slow start due to some bad decision making that almost blew me up, so quite some time dealing with rebels.
My main goal is getting all the possible Institution spawns.

It's quite different with Ming as in I don't really do any diplomacy at all other than establishing tributaries.

As for the consuming neighbouring big nations: pretty much to keep the Mandate in shape. Once for me I was neighbouring a large Bengal allied with a large Delhi and it would have been difficult to take them on as I had my army very spread and was more focusing on getting more trade into Malacca, so I opted to release a vassal, so I wasn't neighbouring them anymore and got the Mandate growth up again. That way I was able to focus nations in nodes that would feed into Malacca.

I love the confucian religion mechanics, although they turned out a little too simple and powerful I find.

Idea wise, I grabbed humanism, exploration, expansion and trade, helping me to get those trade and new world institutions and deal with all the internal stuff. So far turned out really well.


The purpose of this play through for me was learning more about institutions, also increasing my trade game knowledge and exploring all the Mandate of Heaven stuff. Fun play-through so far, good for strengthening your weaknesses while still playing on Ironman.


Cheers!

 

[AngelRay]

Does the mandate strategy "make your capital on an island" still work?

 

[Bibor]

Might be mistaken, but I think your capital *and* your trade capital must be in the globally highest-grossing trade node to trigger the institution.

 

[Akasi]

As far as I have experienced, you only need to have your trade capital in the highest trade node and own the majority of the trade power there.
It does not matter what the tooltip says.
Check the ledger for the trade nodes, sort by trade value and be sure you meet the other requirements.

 

[Piotrzeci]

Don't pay attention to it. The institution tool tabs are a bit weird. It's better to just read requirements on Wiki. It shows Canton, but if Malacca was the highest value trade node on the World it would still spawn the Institution. As you can read Canton is "Most likely to get the Institution". Here I am not sure, but again it probably means "the most likely out of your lands". Just try to boost trade value in Malacca and don't mind the whole Canton thing.

 

[MaXimillion]

Does the mandate strategy "make your capital on an island" still work?

No. Mandate gain is affected by contiguous non-tributary territories that border any of your provinces, not just ones contiguous with your capital.