Main Menu Screen jittery and VERY slow, unable to play game.

[Red John]

Well I'm not exactly sure what the problem is. I currently have 2 computers, the older, and in comparison worse computer can run CK2 and all the DLC's very well. No problems at all there using patch 1.11.

But my better, newer computer is far, far slower. It loads the game up nice and fine, but when I click play, it goes up to the little play menu normally, but it loads the start GUI and republic list GUI very slowly. On the offchance that it loads fully, selecting a start date works fine, but selecting a character fails to work most of the time. The times it does work, the GUI fades away very slowly, freezing constantly, recquiring the repeated click of the play button. If I do get it to work though, the game runs perfectly.

I'm really not sure what the problem is. I've tried disabling all DLC's and enabling them one by one, but it fails to work.

I should mention I'm using Steam.

 

[AndrewT]

First try running a Steam verify.

If tat doesn't help Please try installing:

First: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=5555

After that: http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=8328

Then: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=35
(If that doesn't do anything then http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8109 )

Then: visit the Windows Update site and allow it to apply all .NET updates/patches it wants to, for all .NET versions.

Then right-click on ck2.exe and ck2game.exe and set them to run as the Admin user.
And then check if you can run the game after that.


If thyat doesn't help: Please post a dxdiag.txt (you can delete everything after the "Sound devices" section for brevity), settings.txt, system.log and error.log files (you'll need to rename the .log files to .txt to upload). Also open setup.log, search for "checksum", and paste that line only in here.

 

[Red John]

Unfortunately those steps didn't fix it, so here's the dxdiag and whatnot.

Spoiler

------------------
System Information
------------------
Time of this report: 10/20/2013, 11:24:29
Machine name: WIN7PRO-PC
Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.130828-1532)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
System Model: Z87X-D3H
BIOS: BIOS Date: 04/16/13 23:41:14 Ver: 04.06.05
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (8 CPUs), ~3.5GHz
Memory: 32768MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 32658MB RAM
Page File: 4672MB used, 60642MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

------------
DxDiag Notes
------------
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Sound Tab 3: No problems found.
Sound Tab 4: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

--------------------
DirectX Debug Levels
--------------------
Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

---------------
Display Devices
---------------
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce GTX 780
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1004&SUBSYS_104B10DE&REV_A1
Display Memory: 4095 MB
Dedicated Memory: 2994 MB
Shared Memory: 1101 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: 2436
Monitor Id: AOC2436
Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
Output Type: HD15
Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Driver File Version: 9.18.0013.2723 (English)
Driver Version: 9.18.13.2723
DDI Version: 11
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 9/12/2013 09:58:10, 15703688 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-5344-11CF-CD79-46301CC2C435}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x1004
SubSys ID: 0x104B10DE
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Driver Strong Name: oem44.inf:NVIDIA_SetA_Devices.NTamd64.6.1:Section089:9.18.13.2723ci\ven_10de&dev_1004
Rank Of Driver: 00E02001
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C ModeVC1_C ModeWMV9_C
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D3D9 Overlay: Supported
DXVA-HD: Supported
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Not Available

-------------
Sound Devices
-------------

- Dxdiag
And since for some reason I can't upload txt files:

Spoiler

[systemsettings.cpp:203]: System memory: 0MB
[systemsettings.cpp:205]: CPU speed: 3491MHz
[systemsettings.cpp:212]: Number of processors: 8
[systemsettings.cpp:223]: CPU type: x86
[systemsettings.cpp:255]: OS: Unknown Service Pack 1 Build: 7601
[gfx_settings.cpp:22]: Loading settings for adapter 0, fullscreen=1, multisample=15
[gfx_settings.cpp:50]: Graphic Adapters:
[gfx_settings.cpp:55]: 0: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780
[gfx_settings.cpp:69]: Using Adapter [0] to check for multi-sampling support:
[gfx_settings.cpp:80]: 2 samples supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:80]: 4 samples supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:80]: 8 samples supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:95]: Using Adapter [0]:
[gfx_settings.cpp:101]: Succeeded to create a device [D3DCREATE_HARDWARE_VERTEXPROCESSING].
[gfx_settings.cpp:145]: Graphics device: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780
[gfx_settings.cpp:146]: Graphics driver: nvumdshim.dll
[gfx_settings.cpp:147]: Driver version: 2723
[gfx_settings.cpp:162]:


Dumping all gfx info:
DeviceIdentifier: {D7B71E3E-5344-11CF-CD79-46301CC2C435}
VendorId: 4318
DeviceId: 4100
SubSysId: 273354974
Revision: 161
DriverVersion.HighPart: 589842
DriverVersion.LowPart: 854691


[gfx_settings.cpp:182]: Instancing supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:197]: Video memory amount: 2994MB
[gfx_settings.cpp:198]: MaxSimultaneousTextures: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:199]: MaxVertexBlendMatrices: 4
[gfx_settings.cpp:200]: MaxVertexBlendMatrixIndex: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:201]: MaxSimultaneousTextures: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:202]: MaxTextureBlendStages: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:203]: Support for Anisotropic filtering found.
[gfx_settings.cpp:206]: Max Anisotropic filtering: 16
[gfx_settings.cpp:207]: Anisotropic filtering set to: 0
[gfx_settings.cpp:211]: Vertex Shader version: 3.0
[gfx_settings.cpp:216]: Pixel Shader version: 3.0
[main.cpp:499]: CK2 Version Aug 16 2013 : 11:48:54
[main.cpp:500]: Commandline:
[internationalizedtext.cpp:1234]: Create table
[internationalizedtext.cpp:1236]: Create text database
[main.cpp:527]: Text database created
[main.cpp:545]: Creating application...
[main.cpp:578]: Initializing application...
[ck_application.cpp:576]: Initializing application...
[ck_application.cpp:580]: Done initializing application
[ck_application.cpp:588]: Loading cursor...
[ck_application.cpp:638]: Done loading cursor
[ck_application.cpp:641]: Initializing sound...
[ck_application.cpp:676]: Done initializing sound
[ck_application.cpp:678]: Initializing graphics...
[graphicssettings.cpp:422]: Not using multisampling.
[graphics.cpp:169]: Creating device with: HARDWARE_VERTEXPROCESSING
Fullscreen=yes
RefreshRate=60
Resolution=1920x1080
[graphicssettings.cpp:387]: Usable res: 1024 768 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:387]: Usable res: 1024 768 70
[graphicssettings.cpp:387]: Usable res: 1024 768 75
[graphicssettings.cpp:387]: Usable res: 1152 864 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:387]: Usable res: 1280 720 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:387]: Usable res: 1280 768 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:387]: Usable res: 1280 800 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:387]: Usable res: 1280 960 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:387]: Usable res: 1280 1024 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:387]: Usable res: 1280 1024 75
[graphicssettings.cpp:387]: Usable res: 1360 768 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:387]: Usable res: 1366 768 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:387]: Usable res: 1600 900 59
[graphicssettings.cpp:387]: Usable res: 1600 900 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:387]: Usable res: 1600 1024 59
[graphicssettings.cpp:387]: Usable res: 1600 1024 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:387]: Usable res: 1680 1050 59
[graphicssettings.cpp:387]: Usable res: 1680 1050 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:387]: Usable res: 1920 1080 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:387]: Usable res: 1440 900 60
[graphics.cpp:210]: Done creating device.
[ck_application.cpp:708]: Done initializing graphics
[main.cpp:581]: Running application...

- System Log

Spoiler

gui=
{
language=l_english
has_set_language=yes
}
graphics=
{
size=
{
x=1920
y=1080
}

refreshRate=60
fullScreen=yes
shadows=no
shadowSize=2048
multi_sampling=0
anisotropic_filtering=0
gamma=50.000000
}
sound_fx_volume=100.000000
music_volume=100.000000
scroll_speed=100.000000
camera_rotation_speed=50.000000
zoom_speed=100.000000
mouse_speed=50.000000
master_volume=0.000000
ambient_volume=50.000000
mapRenderingOptions=
{
draw_terrain=yes
draw_water=yes
draw_borders=yes
draw_trees=yes
draw_rivers=yes
draw_postfx=yes
draw_sky=yes
draw_bloom=no
draw_tooltips=yes
draw_hires_terrain=no
draw_citysprawl=yes
}
camera_speed=5.000000
camera_tilt=100.000000
centered_zoom_in=yes
lastplayer=""
lasthost=""
serveradress="diplomacy.valkyrienet.com"
autosave="YEARLY"
difficulty="NORMAL"
outliner=
{
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 9 13 }
outliner_open=yes
windowmovetime=0.200000
disable_wikipedia_links=no
nudge_allowed=no
dont_track_data=yes
has_made_data_tracking_choice=yes
hints=no
old_gods_pagan_hint_forced=no
old_gods_non_pagan_hint_forced=yes
disabled_hints=
{
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 }
autosaves_to_keep=0
low_res_textures=no
force_pow2_textures=no

- Settings.txt.
Error log is empty.

Thanks for your help.

 

[AndrewT]

Memory: 32768MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 32658MB RAM
Page File: 4672MB used, 60642MB available

Display Memory: 4095 MB
Dedicated Memory: 2994 MB
Shared Memory: 1101 MB

Did your previous machine have this little memory? Because what this shows is you have just 3.2gb of memory of which 1.1gb is used by the video card, leaving 2.1gb only for both Windows7 and the game. The game itself uses over 2gb now.

We can see from the Page file stats that you are swapping stuff out to file quite extensively. Quite why you have a page file 65gb in size I'm not sure! But at some point nearly 5gb of memory contents have been swapped out to it, that will slow your machine to a crawl.

So, start by making sure you have exited every other app before running the game up - the App list in Task Manager ought to be empty. If you can add more memory, that's be great - you have Win7 64bit but with that little memory 32bit would have done; IOW to make use of your 64bittedness OS you need more memory.

Are you using any mods? How much free space do you have on C:? Is Steam/the game installed on C:?

That aside I really can't see anything wrong in there. Did the Steam verify find anything to fix?

 

[Red John]

Did your previous machine have this little memory? Because what this shows is you have just 3.2gb of memory of which 1.1gb is used by the video card, leaving 2.1gb only for both Windows7 and the game. The game itself uses over 2gb now.

We can see from the Page file stats that you are swapping stuff out to file quite extensively. Quite why you have a page file 65gb in size I'm not sure! But at some point nearly 5gb of memory contents have been swapped out to it, that will slow your machine to a crawl.

So, start by making sure you have exited every other app before running the game up - the App list in Task Manager ought to be empty. If you can add more memory, that's be great - you have Win7 64bit but with that little memory 32bit would have done; IOW to make use of your 64bittedness OS you need more memory.

Are you using any mods? How much free space do you have on C:? Is Steam/the game installed on C:?

That aside I really can't see anything wrong in there. Did the Steam verify find anything to fix?

Ohhhhhhh. Well, I have 2 disks, one with very little memory, C:, and one with 2 TB. I'll try moving the game to the other drive, and see if that makes it better.

EDIT: Well, that more or less worked. I mean sure, I have to alt + tab when clicking play, but I can deal with that. It's not exactly a total fix, but I'm more than happy with it. Thanks for your help.

 

[AndrewT]

You are confusing memory with disk space, I was talking about system memory, of which you have ... woah, I see I utterly misread your system! I thought you had 3.2gb of Ram (system memory) but its actually 32gb! So forget everything I said.

Why moving it to another disk helped I can't say, unless it perhaps is a much faster disk drive. Weird!