Main Game Performance

[Danielefc]

Two Questions:

1. Will the performance of the main game be the same as the Demo?

2. If so - are there any comments on how long it will take for a "performance enhancing" patch to arrive - 1 day - 1 week - 1 month.... longer? I know its impossible for you to give an exact ETA for something like this - but just an educated guess would be very nice.

Sadly the game is unplayable for me as it is now . I'm getting major lag on a high end machine that runs every other game at full settings with no problems at all. (No CTDs thankfully )

 

[unmerged(143159)]

I'm 99% sure that HoI3 1.0 will run exactly like the demo, because the demo has full features, so there;s really no difference except start time and playable countries. I think that if your game is unplayable now, there's not much you can dobecause it's impossible to have a patch that doubles the speed of the game ( which wouldn't be much better for you ). Could you tell us your Pc-specs? Also, when running the game, try having as little things in the backround as possible. Make sure there's no antivirus running.

 

[TheJoker]

I'm 99% sure that HoI3 1.0 will run exactly like the demo, because the demo has full features, so there;s really no difference except start time and playable countries. I think that if your game is unplayable now, there's not much you can dobecause it's impossible to have a patch that doubles the speed of the game ( which wouldn't be much better for you ). Could you tell us your Pc-specs? Also, when running the game, try having as little things in the backround as possible. Make sure there's no antivirus running.

hmm, chances are there will be a zero day patch. king mentioned something along the lines of "we have fixed a lot of issues since the game went gold and those are included in a release day patch". unfortunately finding older posts is somewhat impossible around here ...

 

[asteris_]

Two Questions:

1. Will the performance of the main game be the same as the Demo?

2. If so - are there any comments on how long it will take for a "performance enhancing" patch to arrive - 1 day - 1 week - 1 month.... longer? I know its impossible for you to give an exact ETA for something like this - but just an educated guess would be very nice.

Sadly the game is unplayable for me as it is now . I'm getting major lag on a high end machine that runs every other game at full settings with no problems at all. (No CTDs thankfully )

I also have a high end machine (assassins creed, fallout, CoD5 etc on full no lag) and a day to finish takes 9-12 seconds. There is no difference if I lower the video settings to minimum or go them to the higher possible..

But I think the game is playable but it could be improved.
In EU3 it took 3-5 seconds to finish a month(EU3 advances day by day).
And if the HoI3. and EU3 have the same engine.. HoI3 can be improved I think.

(If I have a wrong point you can freely correct me)

 

[ALordaB]

it's impossible to have a patch that doubles the speed of the game

I don´t know if it´s possible with HoI3, but other games have done it before.

 

[Danielefc]

I'm 99% sure that HoI3 1.0 will run exactly like the demo, because the demo has full features, so there;s really no difference except start time and playable countries. I think that if your game is unplayable now, there's not much you can dobecause it's impossible to have a patch that doubles the speed of the game ( which wouldn't be much better for you ). Could you tell us your Pc-specs? Also, when running the game, try having as little things in the backround as possible. Make sure there's no antivirus running.

Yea - thats what im afraid of. But still - alot of ppl with high end machines are having lag issues. Should be fixable. And its pretty paramount for PI to do so i would think.

My Spec are:
Windows XP
3 Ghz Dual Core
4 GB DDR2 RAM
512 MB Nvidia 9800 GTX+
(Nothing running in background and Drivers ok)

I don´t know if it´s possible with HoI3, but other games have done it before.

Yea - Empire Total War was unplayable for atleast a week (bugs and massive loading times) i remember

 

[Johan]

Two Questions:

1. Will the performance of the main game be the same as the Demo?

2. If so - are there any comments on how long it will take for a "performance enhancing" patch to arrive - 1 day - 1 week - 1 month.... longer? I know its impossible for you to give an exact ETA for something like this - but just an educated guess would be very nice.

Sadly the game is unplayable for me as it is now . I'm getting major lag on a high end machine that runs every other game at full settings with no problems at all. (No CTDs thankfully )

Well, the releaseday patch has quite some optimisations done.

But it is weird that some people with highend machines get lag problems while people at lower pc's run it flawlessly.

 

[TheJoker]

Yea - thats what im afraid of. But still - alot of ppl with high end machines are having lag issues. Should be fixable. And its pretty paramount for PI to do so i would think.

My Spec are:
Windows XP
3 Ghz Dual Core
4 GB DDR2 RAM
512 MB Nvidia GTX+
(Nothing running in background and Drivers ok)

king allready said that they are focusing on performance improvements for the first patch ...

 

[unmerged(141124)]

Well, the game is so complex, with such number of provinces and divisions, of which AI should take care of, what I guess it will be very hard to improve performance considerably. It's just the immense scale of the game which is so demanding, not the possible nonoptimal programming.
Looks to me we'll have to wait until next gen of processors to run it comfortably on max speeds.

 

[Danielefc]

Well, the releaseday patch has quite some optimisations done.

But it is weird that some people with highend machines get lag problems while people at lower pc's run it flawlessly.

Sounds good and yes: Odd indeed. Well thanks for the answer and lets pray it works out soon

Well, the game is so complex, with such number of provinces and divisions, of which AI should take care of, what I guess it will be very hard to improve performance considerably. It's just the immense scale of the game which is so demanding, not the possible nonoptimal programming.
Looks to me we'll have to wait until next gen of processors to run it comfortably on max speeds.

Well many of the reported lag issues do not relate to processor speeds. Some even get higher speeds by turning of a couple of cores.

 

[mathers]

Well, the releaseday patch has quite some optimisations done.

But it is weird that some people with highend machines get lag problems while people at lower pc's run it flawlessly.

Will it be the OS? On a gut feeling none of the Win7RC people complained on lag. Most lag report was on XP and significantly fewer on Vista (This surprises be a bit). Did you make a perf report matrix on reported memory, OS, proc, graphics? It can bring surprising results.

 

[Will Lucky]

Well, the releaseday patch has quite some optimisations done.

But it is weird that some people with highend machines get lag problems while people at lower pc's run it flawlessly.

This is nice to hear, no major performance problems myself but a bit more optimisation can't hurt. I am a bit worried about what it will be like come the 1940's though when the US and Soviets join in.

 

[Bobb4]

Well, the releaseday patch has quite some optimisations done.

But it is weird that some people with highend machines get lag problems while people at lower pc's run it flawlessly.

Just farting against thunder here as I have as yet not bothered to download the demo, will get full game.
But if I was to hazard a guess why high-end users were suffering from lag, I would have to say two things.
1) Spites at high resolution may not be optimized
and 2) High resolutions may be the issue.

A person with a lower spec machine would turn most eye candy off...

And if the EU3 engine gave no problems and the game is based on the EU3 engine then I would look at what is new? Again now placed in bold SPRITES.
I could be wrong but I am guessing players using counters have less lag.
Just guessing here.

 

[Poh]

Well, the releaseday patch has quite some optimisations done.

But it is weird that some people with highend machines get lag problems while people at lower pc's run it flawlessly.

sounds nice

well its probably just because the people with highend machines notice "a less ideal preformance" and call it lag before others
atleast i got what i would call little sluggish preformance while moving around the map with the mouse. Nothing i couldnt play with or even annoyed me but enough for me to notice.

 

[unmerged(148271)]

Will it be the OS? On a gut feeling none of the Win7RC people complained on lag. Most lag report was on XP and significantly fewer on Vista (This surprises be a bit). Did you make a perf report matrix on reported memory, OS, proc, graphics? It can bring surprising results.

Yes, i suspect that too. People with rather same machines as mine (8800 GTS 320, E6750, 2GB) are running it without flaw on Win 7. I can't really play it, it goes like 5 hours in second and then stops, and so on, and so on, and it's painfully slow while scrolling.
Also, you are forgetting that this game has like 6x more provinces with more details, and much more armies and calculations than EU III, but it's rather disapointing they put out something like this.

 

[Talar]

It may be that the demo is based off the beta which does a lot of logging = much slower than the final version. I guess we will know on release day.

 

[unmerged(148271)]

No, they said it's same as release version.

 

[32karakter]

uhm, maybe the problem is with handling multiple cores?

may game freezed until i set the affinity to core 0, and simce the game runs more or less smootly (from home i can give a detailed information, have an old computer tough)

 

[Lauri]

I am feeling the lag, sadly, but what's currently annoying me the most is that I get a CTD when I fight on as Poland, so I can't play a GiE at all...
I'm not sure if it's really a CTD, because the screen just goes black... and stays black...

 

[Stuka Ju87 D3]

Game is very nice overall, but i'm rather disappointed graphics-wise...

For a bit of eye candy (a bit), i get lag (actual lag) when i select units or zoom-in map...

laptop
Nvidia 8600M GT
3 gb RAM
2.4ghz intel core duo

Those aren't the best characteristics but still.. basic gameplay is sluggish for v. little eye candy in return (and eye candy that I can't disable either; i really don't care about graphics, i care only about a good game, and atm graphics are ruining this v. good game for me)