Yeah this isn't really a good thing. Hope it dosen't happen again since it's pretty anti customer and even worse than the Destiny Red Bull thing that got a lot of (rightful) hate.
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Magicka theme park
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Really not a fan of this, it's an EA type practice and not something I expect from Paradox.
Fragmented/paytowin is the enemy of games and whilst this is a "bonus" it means I have to have magicka 2 to complete Cities Skylines so to speak.
If I don't like fantasy games I have to buy one to get content in a simulation game.
It seems strange.
Pre-order is dodgy but on the line of "sort-of-okay" if you get a special perk of some sort but other games is silly.
Again not what I expect from Paradox and Colossal and really disappointing if this is the new route.
Fragmented/paytowin is the enemy of games and whilst this is a "bonus" it means I have to have magicka 2 to complete Cities Skylines so to speak.
If I don't like fantasy games I have to buy one to get content in a simulation game.
It seems strange.
Pre-order is dodgy but on the line of "sort-of-okay" if you get a special perk of some sort but other games is silly.
Again not what I expect from Paradox and Colossal and really disappointing if this is the new route.
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I didn't even *know* about the game when it was time to pre-order... Now I'm being punished because I don't hang out on the internet all day reading about up-and-coming city building games. (Granted that I probably still wouldn't have preordered, as I had no way of knowing the game would be this good; but the point stands regardless.)
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Wouldn't preorder yet complain about preorder bonuses?
Doesn't want to play other games, yet complains about cross-promotional material?
The word for this is Entitled, and yes I mean the negative connotation of it. They are giving you rewards for early support and supporting other products, they are not taking away content from the base game, in fact all these assets have similarly related assets that perform the same functions in the base game (you didn't even have to get the Deluxe version to get them). You aren't nerfed because you didn't preorder or buy Magicka.
And no, I didn't preorder or own Magicka either, but I'm not so entitled to think I am owed promotional material. I mean if you really, really must have those assets, you can use the asset editor to make up your own copy of it.
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And how many dozens of hours would that take with *zero* experience in 3d modeling (and no interest to learn it)? Get real, friendo. Yes, I'm entitled to the same content as those who happened to know about the game before me. And anyway, I'd be perfectly happy if they made those parks etc available as a paid DLC. They could even charge a rip-off price for them and I'd still be happy.
Pre-order 'bonuses' that are made unavailable after a certain period are a bad policy, period. They cater only to snot-nosed brats who want to feel 'exclusive' by having something that others can never get.
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You are entitled to what you paid for, since you didn't preorder or buy Magicka, you aren't entitled to either of that bonus promotional content. I'd be more than glad to buy those assets as a paid DLC, but complaining about this business practice is wrong. Game companies are not the only companies that do this. http://www.business.com/online-marketing/how-to-boost-sales-with-cross-selling-and-cross-promotion/
Everyone does it, so I guess every company in the world caters only to snot-nosed brats. What you are complaining about is what every retail establishment since the beginning of time has done, how many times do you go to the fast food joint in your neck of the woods and they ask, "Would you like to get fries with that?"
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Yeah, the fact that Paradox have included a tiny bit of content to treat a particular demographic of their audience doesn't particularly bother me. It's not a core part of the game, it's not giving those players an advantage over others, and nobody is missing out on any functionality through not owning Magicka. If it was any of those three or a future addition went that way then I would be concerned, but this isn't. It's like when you own Team Fortress 2 and Portal 2 and some of the hats are available in both games.
I can't remember whether it was TotalyMoo or one of the other Paradox/CO people who said they wouldn't produce purely cosmetic DLC (as has been suggested above for both the pre-order and Magicka items) because the modding community can, and already has, produced far more assets than the devs ever could.
I can't remember whether it was TotalyMoo or one of the other Paradox/CO people who said they wouldn't produce purely cosmetic DLC (as has been suggested above for both the pre-order and Magicka items) because the modding community can, and already has, produced far more assets than the devs ever could.
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I'm not even sure what that refers to. You mean in your country, after you've stated your order, people actually ask if you'd like something extra tacked on to it? As if you hadn't said so if you wanted that! Well, in Finland they do sometimes ask, 'Is that all or would you like something else?', but even that is a useless and stupid question, imo; if I wanted something else, I'd have stated it in the first place.
Anyway, I don't see how the fries example fits here, as it doesn't (presumably?) require you to buy anything else in order to get those fries, or to arrive at the McD before 10:30 AM. Would you be happy with a McDonald's where you can only get fries if you arrive before 10:30 AM? And they'd only advertize this fact in the local underground poetry maganize? 'Cause that's the equivalent of what's happened here.
For the record, the fact that 'everyone' does something doesn't justify one single iota of anything, ever in the history of mankind. The popularity of something has no bearing on its quality. If you think it does, you're part of the herd and a lost cause to begin with, so I won't even bother to argue.
EDIT: Anyway, it's a minor issue if there ever was one, because there are oodles of assets available on the WS. It's the *principle* of it that infuriates me, but compared to, say, workers not having to get to work or traffic not using all lanes in the base game, this is maybe 5 % as irritating. ... Ok, maybe 10 %.
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EDIT: Anyway, it's a minor issue if there ever was one, because there are oodles of assets available on the WS. It's the *principle* of it that infuriates me, but compared to, say, workers not having to get to work or traffic not using all lanes in the base game, this is maybe 5 % as irritating. ... Ok, maybe 10 %.
It's called cross selling and cross promotion and every retail establishment in the world does it. If the principle bothers you, don't go shopping because it is everywhere. It's the same principle as going to the supermarket and buying something which has a coupon inside the package for another tangentially related item made by a subsidiary of the same parent company. Or would you like fries with that? The whole reason why I said that is because Burger King and Macdonald's are the two biggest cross selling, cross promotional giants in the world, they make EA look like a meek kitten in the corporate world. Look at the amount of movie, toy, and entertainment tie-ins they do. If that principle angers you, you must be pretty angry at life considering it is everywhere and has been like that at least in the 40 years I've been alive.
This really is a non issue since they aren't giving away anything except a re-skin of a functional asset that already exists. It's a different look but performs the same. If these assets did stuff better or had more functions than what you could get with the vanilla purchase then you would have an argument, but they are exactly the same as what already exists they just look different.
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Yes, I do hate the corporate greed-hell we're forced to live in. CO already have demonstrated they don't want to jump on that bandwagon, by giving the night-time away for free and supporting modding (instead of only releasing 'official' DLC at a ridiculous price, as is the standard policy nowadays). So I think it sits ill at ease with their overall modus operandi. But anyway, I'm tired of arguing about it, so, let's just enjoy the non-complete content that we have and dl some more park assets (they're better than official ones, anyway).
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Other people may have extra content. This is the end. My life is ruined.
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Exactly. This guy gets it.
I think he was trolling you, no one's life is ruined because they didn't get the Magicka theme park in CS.
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I hope you're posting in jest, because I certainly was (is nothing too obvious on the internet?). It's not the end of the world, no, but it's something the world could do without.
Summation of pretty much every post from #14 on: Waaaaaaaaah! Someone owns something I don't.
I think you CO guys should do a spoof building of Medieval Times but make it Crusader Kings II themed.
I think you CO guys should do a spoof building of Medieval Times but make it Crusader Kings II themed.
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...and that I can no longer *get*, even in *principle*. But thank you for crying about crying; where would the internet be without you?
This is a reward for loyal paradox customers, not an in game advertisement.
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Still haven't understood if this is just for owning Magicka2... I own the first Magicka but got no theme park
I have both 1 and 2 and did not get any, how do you get it?? i have linked both games to my mail and account
While we're on the subject, I play Magic The Gathering, but I wasn't aware of it when it was first released, why can't I buy 1st Edition Boosters, why should I be "punished" just because I didn't know about it.
Yeah I know, not fully the same but even still.
If people really want to moan about this sort of thing they really should take a look as Deus Ex: Mankind Divided and it pre-order shenanigans. They're really trying to fulfill the "Mankind Divided" part of the title through the pre-order offers.
Yeah I know, not fully the same but even still.
If people really want to moan about this sort of thing they really should take a look as Deus Ex: Mankind Divided and it pre-order shenanigans. They're really trying to fulfill the "Mankind Divided" part of the title through the pre-order offers.
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