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Yes actually...Aldo said:Any objections?
The Venetian ambassador in Constantinopel is getting ready to leave for Venice to report of new rumours of trade embargoes to the Doge and the Council. If he will return only the future can tell...
Just a note to all: my PC is acting weird, and I have lost my ICQ history a few times already, so if you have something to discuss continueing on something we discussed earlier, please do not count on me knowing everything we discussed earlier
Sorry i was away the whole day... yes accepted by spain...
We just hope there is no ambiguity with the 2 no stuff (??!!)...
We just hope there is no ambiguity with the 2 no stuff (??!!)...
devil said:
hehe forzaa, that is bad excuse for your memoryForzaA said:Just a note to all: my PC is acting weird, and I have lost my ICQ history a few times already, so if you have something to discuss continueing on something we discussed earlier, please do not count on me knowing everything we discussed earlier
devil said:hehe forzaa, that is bad excuse for your memory
that you have alienated everyone with your actions doesn't mean noone wants to talk to ME
hahah PR!!!!ForzaA said:that you have alienated everyone with your actions doesn't mean noone wants to talk to ME
Reminder of the day
note: "its forts" for the Netherlands does NOT include ROTW Forts.HolisticGod said:
hehe max medium forts in colonies... uhhhhmmmm...
Why is netherlands allowed to get max forts for reg. price?
Why is netherlands allowed to get max forts for reg. price?
1750 is earliestcaptain drake said:btw could you release usa early ?? can't wait
Since the Netherlands is all dikes, swamps and rivers IRL, and that is poorly reflected in the game, the Netherlands was EXTREMELY hard to conquer (IIRC the Rhine was twice crossed succesfully in war, in EXTREMELY could winters)devil said:
A terribly crashy session but decent over all.
Question to everyone: In the end of the session OE dowed Poland and demanded Ruthenia (sp?). Poland called Austria into the war but Poland accepted right away and made separate peace. Now OE and Austria was at war and ForzaA said I should WP since I did got what I asked for intitially. I was kind of convinced that he was correct but what do the rest of you think? The demand was made AFTER Austria joined the war.
Note: Austria agreed to fight OE if Sweden WP'd BBurg. Sweden refused but peaced Poland shortly after. NOW Austria didn't care about BBurg and WP'd Sweden. How does that add together ForzaA?
At least OE's army size is close to the supply limit now.
Question to everyone: In the end of the session OE dowed Poland and demanded Ruthenia (sp?). Poland called Austria into the war but Poland accepted right away and made separate peace. Now OE and Austria was at war and ForzaA said I should WP since I did got what I asked for intitially. I was kind of convinced that he was correct but what do the rest of you think? The demand was made AFTER Austria joined the war.
Note: Austria agreed to fight OE if Sweden WP'd BBurg. Sweden refused but peaced Poland shortly after. NOW Austria didn't care about BBurg and WP'd Sweden. How does that add together ForzaA?
At least OE's army size is close to the supply limit now.
Very good Session for Denmark! 82D monthly income reached, an increase with almost 50 Percent! 30 War ships were built and the Danish armada is soon comparable with the major naval nations.
Denmark did stay as a neutral country in the great northern war. And the Danish king hope's that other nations will respect that.
Denmark did stay as a neutral country in the great northern war. And the Danish king hope's that other nations will respect that.
Nice session although a bit annoying to have to rehost every 2 years or so.
Venice explored the American East coast from Greenland to Brazil, The African West Coast to the Cape before our brave explorer perished in one of his many encounters with Pirates. Venice geographical knowledge is now on par with other minor and central European nations I would think. Tradewise it wasn't as successful as I though since COTs are worth about as much in Amercia as in Europe and Venice's largest problem is her lack of merchants. Some one session Persian sub banned me from Isfahan for some reason as well.
A small colony was constructed on the coast south of Jamaica producing suger and rum for our sailing navy protecting its port against pirates.
Moroccos capital was sacked and 78 ducats and a few old infidel mapbooks were captured in this late crusade.
Trade rights were purchased in French and Ottoman Centers of Trades but Im not sure how much they were worth since its not places to trade but the number of merchants to place thats the chokepoint for a 1 COT nation like Venice.
For the first time in history Venice spent money on constructing some forts in Italy. 2 failed conversions attempts on Corsica, one killing a smaller army in the ensuing revolt was annoying but all know Venice is not favoured by our lady Fortuna (RNG). 3x95 percent colonisation failed in a row as well.
Venice has approximately the following relations to nations around the Globe:
Austria Neutral
France Neutral
Spain Neutral
Portugal Neutral
England Neutral
Poland Neutral
Russia Neutral
Brandenburg
Denmark Neutral
Sweden Neutral
Ottoman Empire Non-Friendly
Holland Hostile
The main reason for bad relations are trade difficulties and embargoes or threats of embargoes if licenses aren't purchased.
Venice is pro free trade and pro BoP in Europe.
Venice explored the American East coast from Greenland to Brazil, The African West Coast to the Cape before our brave explorer perished in one of his many encounters with Pirates. Venice geographical knowledge is now on par with other minor and central European nations I would think. Tradewise it wasn't as successful as I though since COTs are worth about as much in Amercia as in Europe and Venice's largest problem is her lack of merchants. Some one session Persian sub banned me from Isfahan for some reason as well.
A small colony was constructed on the coast south of Jamaica producing suger and rum for our sailing navy protecting its port against pirates.
Moroccos capital was sacked and 78 ducats and a few old infidel mapbooks were captured in this late crusade.
Trade rights were purchased in French and Ottoman Centers of Trades but Im not sure how much they were worth since its not places to trade but the number of merchants to place thats the chokepoint for a 1 COT nation like Venice.
For the first time in history Venice spent money on constructing some forts in Italy. 2 failed conversions attempts on Corsica, one killing a smaller army in the ensuing revolt was annoying but all know Venice is not favoured by our lady Fortuna (RNG). 3x95 percent colonisation failed in a row as well.
Venice has approximately the following relations to nations around the Globe:
Austria Neutral
France Neutral
Spain Neutral
Portugal Neutral
England Neutral
Poland Neutral
Russia Neutral
Brandenburg
Denmark Neutral
Sweden Neutral
Ottoman Empire Non-Friendly
Holland Hostile
The main reason for bad relations are trade difficulties and embargoes or threats of embargoes if licenses aren't purchased.
Venice is pro free trade and pro BoP in Europe.
The Dutch agressive Trading policy is very disturbing for Denmark, they refuse to sign a trade agreement and there demand for max two danish merchants in Malacca is ridicules. The Dutch people exhort for a trade war that could cause future conflicts!
Venice earned 150 ducats yearly from OE CoTs. That was only possibly thanks to the trade license. Otherwise Venice would have earned NOTHING from OE CoTs due to its bad trading capabilities. 150 ducats a year is 3000 ducats for the 20 year license Venice bought for 700 ducats. Now it took some time for Venice to get the number of traders up to the current but the enormous profit is there only thanks to the trade license. But it ends in 1687 and can be sold to someone else if Venice is so displeased with the arrangement.juv95hrn said:
Aldo said:A terribly crashy session but decent over all.
Question to everyone: In the end of the session OE dowed Poland and demanded Ruthenia (sp?). Poland called Austria into the war but Poland accepted right away and made separate peace. Now OE and Austria was at war and ForzaA said I should WP since I did got what I asked for intitially. I was kind of convinced that he was correct but what do the rest of you think? The demand was made AFTER Austria joined the war.
Note: Austria agreed to fight OE if Sweden WP'd BBurg. Sweden refused but peaced Poland shortly after. NOW Austria didn't care about BBurg and WP'd Sweden. How does that add together ForzaA?
At least OE's army size is close to the supply limit now.
What I find rediculous is why should Austria make it conditional that Sweden WP Brandenburg if Ottomans wish to fight him? It isn't the Ottomans fault that Sweden was forced to defend itself from the treachery or that Austria will seek to interfere in outer-HRE matters. As for the other...You made a peace with Poland, remaining at war with Austria. You owe him no obligation to WP him at all, since he did agree to join the war, unless it was presented as an alliance-wide white peace and you agreed to it knowing that.