A few English AARs posted, including the complete Chapter III (1563 – 1584) of "The Concise History of European Waged Warfare".
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Damocles said:
Why should the Netherlands recieve Portuguese Maps? I have had nothing to do with mainland Europe, and have done my best to keep knowledge of East of the Cape to myself and no one else. Sure France and England sneaked by, but they did as ordered, only three warships were allowed past the Cape and they had to ask first. If the Dutch want knowledge of beyond the Cape, they can send an explorer. Not my maps.
Lord_Robertus said:
Because historically, the Dutch explorered Indonesia and Southeast Asia alongside the Portugese long before the Netherlands are playable.
One way to get Dutch to always have Portuguese maps is to make Spain share Portugiuese maps in the Iberian Wedding event (1580), and to push back the Dutch independence events to the time when they were historically recognised as being so (1581). This would be a neat solution, but could raise other problems.
Have any edits been done during the past days? HG seems to be unreachable.PJL said:
So, what will it be?
1) End of campaign
2) New GM elected
3) ...?
As far as I know, we miss France. Perhaps Spain also. We need capable sub(s).
For editing:
- we have to decide what to do with Holland
- if I remember correctly, there was a problem with Brandenburg diplo-annexing 3 province Saxony
Here is the history of Saxony:
- September 4, 1526 : Saxony became Vassals of Brandenburg.
- June 30, 1554 : Hessen accepted peace with Saxony on the following terms : Full Annexation of Hessen by Saxony.
- May 12, 1576 : Brandenburg annexed Saxony.
- June 26, 1578 : The people of Saxony declared independence from Brandenburg.
- June 26, 1578 : Saxony became Vassals of Brandenburg.
As I read the rules, despite releasing one-province Saxony as a vassal, Brandenburg still has one province too many (should have waited 20 more years for diplo-annexing two provinces).
But it so happens Brandenburg has Oldenburg as an ally… Could perhaps the solution be Brandenburg to keep all the provinces he has right now, but his ally Oldenburg has to cede Friesland and Geldre to Netherlands?
1) End of campaign
2) New GM elected
3) ...?
As far as I know, we miss France. Perhaps Spain also. We need capable sub(s).
For editing:
- we have to decide what to do with Holland
- if I remember correctly, there was a problem with Brandenburg diplo-annexing 3 province Saxony
Here is the history of Saxony:
- September 4, 1526 : Saxony became Vassals of Brandenburg.
- June 30, 1554 : Hessen accepted peace with Saxony on the following terms : Full Annexation of Hessen by Saxony.
- May 12, 1576 : Brandenburg annexed Saxony.
- June 26, 1578 : The people of Saxony declared independence from Brandenburg.
- June 26, 1578 : Saxony became Vassals of Brandenburg.
As I read the rules, despite releasing one-province Saxony as a vassal, Brandenburg still has one province too many (should have waited 20 more years for diplo-annexing two provinces).
But it so happens Brandenburg has Oldenburg as an ally… Could perhaps the solution be Brandenburg to keep all the provinces he has right now, but his ally Oldenburg has to cede Friesland and Geldre to Netherlands?
Barnius said:
Lets hold off on ending the campaign, lol.
New GM elected if HG remains MIA past tommorrow. Unless his house burnt down or something, but in that case, he probably won't be able to GM anyhow.
I think that two things need to be edited, and I imagine we can have Slargos make the required changes before the session.
A) Oldenburg needs to cede Friesland and Geldre to Netherlands. If any other nation had them, they would have automatically gone to the Dutch anyhow.
B) Brandenburg keeps its current provinces. Its only a difference of 20 years and its closing in on time for the 30 YW anyways. Since the game can't replicate the german protestant league, a larger then historical Brandenburg is perfectly acceptable to replicate the north german protestants.
C) I think Netherlands should be given 2000d. It can do whatever it wants with it. Whether for missing out on important event decisions, or starting with no navy and hardly any maps or whatever. It will be getting explorers (I believe) and it will be plenty set up with 2000d in the treasurey if the player is wise. Ducats are the great balancer.
Has anyone spoken to HG?
barns,
I talked to my friends flatus and joker, they will probaly both show up, at least that is what they said, use them if you wish
I will try finishing and posting the french AAR before game start, I wanted to wait untill the war of religion ended, but what the heck Unfotunately I am behind a router though a VPN tunnel, to gain access to the internet, so there is no way I can join tonight, I will probaly be on ICQ, and give barns my instructions, so he can give them to whoever plays france.
All,
Giving Netherlands some maps, maybe an explorer and a large pot of gold should be acceptable for all. And if someone can post the save, I can make the edits on holland fast.
What about the inflation injections have we decided to go without them?
barns,
I talked to my friends flatus and joker, they will probaly both show up, at least that is what they said, use them if you wish
I will try finishing and posting the french AAR before game start, I wanted to wait untill the war of religion ended, but what the heck
Unfotunately I am behind a router though a VPN tunnel, to gain access to the internet, so there is no way I can join tonight, I will probaly be on ICQ, and give barns my instructions, so he can give them to whoever plays france.All,
Giving Netherlands some maps, maybe an explorer and a large pot of gold should be acceptable for all. And if someone can post the save, I can make the edits on holland fast.
What about the inflation injections have we decided to go without them?
Just for the record:
I will not be GMing this game whatever happens. Policing a couple of rules is hell, policing the multitude of rules in Mach 3 with players who are not very keen on following them is ridiculous.
I will do the edits if HG doesn't show up and does them, or Devil can do them.
I will not be GMing this game whatever happens. Policing a couple of rules is hell, policing the multitude of rules in Mach 3 with players who are not very keen on following them is ridiculous.
I will do the edits if HG doesn't show up and does them, or Devil can do them.
The Sultan and the Emperor have agreed to correct their Hungarian border in a temporary settlement.Slargos said:
This means that Maros and Magyar will be ceded from Austria to OE
and
Istria and Steiermark from OE to Austria
This is essential.
Note: ForzaA har previously agreed to this but he also seems hard to reach. I do not know if he has comfirmed to HG yet. If you won't take my word for it
) ) maybe it is possible to create two sets of saves?
To be edited:
Austrias 5 Warships in the port of Venice should be transfered to the possession of Venice. This was allowed by HG since long.
THIS is essential...
I'm fine with the suggestions presented by Damo...
Austrias 5 Warships in the port of Venice should be transfered to the possession of Venice. This was allowed by HG since long.
THIS is essential...
I'm fine with the suggestions presented by Damo...
2000 d is good for Holland is good, but if she is to DOW Spain in 5 years to simmulate the war for independence, than it's not enough. Also, perhaps better to give Holland a bit higher trading income than cash.
- 20 warships
- 15.000 infantry, 5.000 cavalry
- naval tech a bit higher?
- Caribbean TPs removed; instead a colony in Africa to help with exploration
- African coastline maps up to Persian gulf and Goa; maps of Zanzibar, Isfahan and Goa COT and 1 merchant in each of those COTs
- a merchant or two in some other COTs
- 20 warships
- 15.000 infantry, 5.000 cavalry
- naval tech a bit higher?
- Caribbean TPs removed; instead a colony in Africa to help with exploration
- African coastline maps up to Persian gulf and Goa; maps of Zanzibar, Isfahan and Goa COT and 1 merchant in each of those COTs
- a merchant or two in some other COTs
Aldo, Sure Its no problem to create 2 or more saves with the edits it takes no time to do it. Consider it doneAldo said:The Sultan and the Emperor have agreed to correct their Hungarian border in a temporary settlement.
This means that Maros and Magyar will be ceded from Austria to OE
and
Istria and Steiermark from OE to Austria
This is essential.
Note: ForzaA har previously agreed to this but he also seems hard to reach. I do not know if he has comfirmed to HG yet. If you won't take my word for it
All, please post any deals that are to be made, that is the least I can do when I can't show up to play
Slargos, I agree, feel the same way, I know how much shit you take in reloaded, and that is like half rules, which I proved, I couldn't follow. I respect your decisions
I checked Holland part of the save, so here is additional editing I suggest:
- inflation=0,007, loansize=200 (as for the opposite choice in the Amsterdam Stock Exchange event)
- port dates for naval units to December 1583
- inflation=0,007, loansize=200 (as for the opposite choice in the Amsterdam Stock Exchange event)
- port dates for naval units to December 1583
EDITS for next session
deals so far are:
- Maros and Magyar from Austria to OE
- Istria and Steiermark from OE to Austria
- Austrian 5 Warships -> Venice, Port of Venice
UPDATE: Forzaa has confirmed the deal.
proposed for Holland are:
- 20 warships
- 15.000 infantry, 5.000 cavalry
- naval tech +1
- Caribbean TPs removed; instead a colony in east Africa to help with exploration
- African coastline maps up to Persian gulf and Goa; maps of Zanzibar, Isfahan and Goa COT and 1 merchant in each of those COTs
- knowledge of chinese and japanese COTs.
- a merchant or two in some other COTs, suggestion, ile de france and anglia.
- inflation=0,007, loansize=200 (as for the opposite choice in the Amsterdam Stock Exchange event)
- port dates for naval units to December 1583
deals so far are:
- Maros and Magyar from Austria to OE
- Istria and Steiermark from OE to Austria
- Austrian 5 Warships -> Venice, Port of Venice
UPDATE: Forzaa has confirmed the deal.
proposed for Holland are:
- 20 warships
- 15.000 infantry, 5.000 cavalry
- naval tech +1
- Caribbean TPs removed; instead a colony in east Africa to help with exploration
- African coastline maps up to Persian gulf and Goa; maps of Zanzibar, Isfahan and Goa COT and 1 merchant in each of those COTs
- knowledge of chinese and japanese COTs.
- a merchant or two in some other COTs, suggestion, ile de france and anglia.
- inflation=0,007, loansize=200 (as for the opposite choice in the Amsterdam Stock Exchange event)
- port dates for naval units to December 1583
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Great!devil said:Aldo, Sure Its no problem to create 2 or more saves with the edits it takes no time to do it. Consider it done
devil said:
Wait, wait, we are currently an annarchy
I have no intention to be a GM or something.Those were mainly only my SUGGESTIONS, other people have to approve it. Especially Portugal for maps. Also, The Archduke should post his wishes