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FOR EDITING: those written in red have to be decided for or something
1) From Holland to Portugal: 179, 180, 178; don’t forget nationalism in all 3 provinces
2) Change culture: Iberian -> Dutch culture: 713
3) Sell of Malta (Portugal>France>Venice ): Malta from Portugal to Venice, 1000 d from Venice to France; add nationalism to Malta.
4) 19 (?) American colonies from France to USA; add nationalism; CB to all countries bordering rebelled colonies (England, Spain, Canada, Holland)
5) 24 warships added to one of Dutch navies. 23 warships removed from Spanish navy. Take 1 warship from one of French navies so that Spain remains with 1 warship, just to have leaders (could perhaps make problems with the save if they disapear? if not remove all 24 Spanish warships I guess)
6) The Amsterdam Agreement (if payment method is acceptable): New Zeeland (727, 728, 729, 730) from England to Holland; add nationalism. Colony of Zambezia (771) from Holland to England; no nationalism, since it’s a colony; a loan edited in: England to Holland 5008 d, 92% interests, 13 months.
7) Firenze and Milan to Venice, Corisca to France; nationalism to all 3 probvinces? Venice -1 stab, Venice leaves her alliance – in game
8) CB province for Holland – where in Indonesia? (Cuyuni 179 removed)
9) England wishes a CB against France and Portugal to be edited in or England CB on Portuguese India
10) Cores added to Austria on the following provinces, as if the Spanish choice was "Bourbon" in the succession event:377 Luxembourg, 378 Brabant, 380 Flandern, 389 Lombardia, 390 Mantua
11) In light of the future incorporation of Bavaria (as discussed way back with Devil) cores on the following provinces: 348 Ansbach, 349 Bayern
12) There are two alliances with 3 player countries: Holland+USA+Portugal and Sweden+Canada+Poland. In the beginning of the session one country has to leave the alliance – NO EDITING required
12) There are cities with large (level 4) forts that are in collision with the rules. I would suggest leaving them and allowing large forts at regular prices, with the limits still on regarding locations (basically allowed in Europe and ROTW COTs, but now at regular prices). If not, than the following forts have to be edited to level = 3 (all are leve = 4 now) or paid for still 2xmore than regular costs (edited from treasury): FRA Paris 385, TUR Constantinople 357, TUR Sarajevo 364, TUR Erevan 472, DAN Křbenhavn 307, PFA Heidelberg 345, MOG Ujjain 546
13) Polish issue:
as the choice made by a half-hour sub.. and that noone seems available to *confirm* the B choice for Poland, I suggest (after discussion with Devil, as usual ) the following edit:
Polish Ari -2, cent +2, merc -2, serf -2 (and stab -1, doubtfull) to reverse the B choice.
THEN trigger event #3499 from the console (for Poland) Russian, Prussian and Austrian events are then automatic, and can be added to the history afterwards:
3337
3440
14) DP changes to France to enable revolution (aristocracy +6?)
1) From Holland to Portugal: 179, 180, 178; don’t forget nationalism in all 3 provinces
2) Change culture: Iberian -> Dutch culture: 713
3) Sell of Malta (Portugal>France>Venice ): Malta from Portugal to Venice, 1000 d from Venice to France; add nationalism to Malta.
4) 19 (?) American colonies from France to USA; add nationalism; CB to all countries bordering rebelled colonies (England, Spain, Canada, Holland)
5) 24 warships added to one of Dutch navies. 23 warships removed from Spanish navy. Take 1 warship from one of French navies so that Spain remains with 1 warship, just to have leaders (could perhaps make problems with the save if they disapear? if not remove all 24 Spanish warships I guess)
6) The Amsterdam Agreement (if payment method is acceptable): New Zeeland (727, 728, 729, 730) from England to Holland; add nationalism. Colony of Zambezia (771) from Holland to England; no nationalism, since it’s a colony; a loan edited in: England to Holland 5008 d, 92% interests, 13 months.
7) Firenze and Milan to Venice, Corisca to France; nationalism to all 3 probvinces? Venice -1 stab, Venice leaves her alliance – in game
8) CB province for Holland – where in Indonesia? (Cuyuni 179 removed)
9) England wishes a CB against France and Portugal to be edited in or England CB on Portuguese India
10) Cores added to Austria on the following provinces, as if the Spanish choice was "Bourbon" in the succession event:377 Luxembourg, 378 Brabant, 380 Flandern, 389 Lombardia, 390 Mantua
11) In light of the future incorporation of Bavaria (as discussed way back with Devil) cores on the following provinces: 348 Ansbach, 349 Bayern
12) There are two alliances with 3 player countries: Holland+USA+Portugal and Sweden+Canada+Poland. In the beginning of the session one country has to leave the alliance – NO EDITING required
12) There are cities with large (level 4) forts that are in collision with the rules. I would suggest leaving them and allowing large forts at regular prices, with the limits still on regarding locations (basically allowed in Europe and ROTW COTs, but now at regular prices). If not, than the following forts have to be edited to level = 3 (all are leve = 4 now) or paid for still 2xmore than regular costs (edited from treasury): FRA Paris 385, TUR Constantinople 357, TUR Sarajevo 364, TUR Erevan 472, DAN Křbenhavn 307, PFA Heidelberg 345, MOG Ujjain 546
13) Polish issue:
as the choice made by a half-hour sub.. and that noone seems available to *confirm* the B choice for Poland, I suggest (after discussion with Devil, as usual ) the following edit:
Polish Ari -2, cent +2, merc -2, serf -2 (and stab -1, doubtfull) to reverse the B choice.
THEN trigger event #3499 from the console (for Poland) Russian, Prussian and Austrian events are then automatic, and can be added to the history afterwards:
3337
3440
14) DP changes to France to enable revolution (aristocracy +6?)
More on what kind of an ally Bourbons are...
Portugal was French ally just a few years ago. Than France, an ally, forced them to intervene TWICE in the war between "USA" rebells and Holland on one side and attacked England on the other one.
And than France reffused to take Portugal back in the alliance. She used Portugal. Portugal on the other hand with that blatant aggression allienated England very much. Later he did the same with Italy. Portugal effectivelly closed himself in the darkesp possible dead end.
And what does Portuguese recent ally do than? He hummiliates Portugal and demmands vassalisation. Still, it is a mistery why Portugal accepted such a humiliatting demmand when he was faced only with a POSSIBLE loss of a FEW colonies.
Portugal was French ally just a few years ago. Than France, an ally, forced them to intervene TWICE in the war between "USA" rebells and Holland on one side and attacked England on the other one.
And than France reffused to take Portugal back in the alliance. She used Portugal. Portugal on the other hand with that blatant aggression allienated England very much. Later he did the same with Italy. Portugal effectivelly closed himself in the darkesp possible dead end.
And what does Portuguese recent ally do than? He hummiliates Portugal and demmands vassalisation. Still, it is a mistery why Portugal accepted such a humiliatting demmand when he was faced only with a POSSIBLE loss of a FEW colonies.
[nitpick]
Russia must take the "A" option in the Creation of the Patriarchate.
now where did Russia pick up greek culture?
[/nitpick]
I DEMAND
o that Russia be severely punished, and the GM as well for allowing such a blatant abuse of the rules.
suggested penalty: Russia +10% inflation, France +100% inflation :rofl:
[in case the smilies are not enough, this is a horrible attempt at a joke]
Russia must take the "A" option in the Creation of the Patriarchate.
now where did Russia pick up greek culture?
[/nitpick]
I DEMAND
o that Russia be severely punished, and the GM as well for allowing such a blatant abuse of the rules.suggested penalty: Russia +10% inflation, France +100% inflation :rofl:
[in case the smilies are not enough, this is a horrible attempt at a joke
]
I was Hollered on ICQ for subbing. I'll take wichever country is open
EDIT: ... wich seems to be Russia.
EDIT: ... wich seems to be Russia.
inri said:
Greetings, Tsar of all Russians.
Russia currently has some nice leaders. Good luch with them.
Ambassador of His Majesty George III, King of Great Britain.
Date : 11-5-2004 Time : 14:48
From : devil FRA
it not like I plan to fight austria this session
Date : 11-5-2004 Time : 14:48
From : devil FRA
I won't move until nappy comes around
Date : 11-5-2004 Time : 14:49
From : devil FRA
of course you may plot to dow me, but that the way it is, I am playing with open cards
From : devil FRA
it not like I plan to fight austria this session
Date : 11-5-2004 Time : 14:48
From : devil FRA
I won't move until nappy comes around
Date : 11-5-2004 Time : 14:49
From : devil FRA
of course you may plot to dow me, but that the way it is, I am playing with open cards
And because of my open cards you allied prussia, which I was going to dow. All knew that I wanted them as vassals. I also want austria and russia, let us begin guessing why shall weForzaA said:Date : 11-5-2004 Time : 14:48
From : devil FRA
it not like I plan to fight austria this session
Date : 11-5-2004 Time : 14:48
From : devil FRA
I won't move until nappy comes around
Date : 11-5-2004 Time : 14:49
From : devil FRA
of course you may plot to dow me, but that the way it is, I am playing with open cards
Anyway Lousy session the perm 2 months lag cost me all my traders to russia which was spamming every cot left and right...
Welcome and goodbie.Barnius said:
The Russian leaders surely was good but in the Caucasian mountains 100k of Ottoman Infantry is better.
The Latter Russian Czar wasn't much of a diplomat. In fact, he seemed unable to write at all casue I never got any respons from him. Ruben was pretty good at fighting though but the Sultan has already achieved the goals he proclamed "make meat out of Moldavs" the Porte is satisfied with enjoying the current vast Ottoman Crimea that streches from the deep corner of the Azoq sea in the east to Podolia in the west.
The Porte suggests the Czar should take reason and make peace. An alternative would be to sell Georgia to the Ottoman Empire. It would be payed for generously.
ForzaA said:Date : 11-5-2004 Time : 14:48
From : devil FRA
it not like I plan to fight austria this session
Date : 11-5-2004 Time : 14:48
From : devil FRA
I won't move until nappy comes around
Date : 11-5-2004 Time : 14:49
From : devil FRA
of course you may plot to dow me, but that the way it is, I am playing with open cards
Date : 11-5-2004 Time about 22:00
FRA-SWE dows bavaria (both of them had MA upon Prussia)
reason of war : Prussia
i dunno if be more disappointed or laughting
-Didnt know france was going to dow bavaria
-Dont think theres anything wrong with that anyway
-Forgot about access
-Dont think theres anything wrong with that anyway
-Forgot about access
cheech said:
-if the reason of war is prussia,and this is a RP game,why dow bavaria???
-if i rejected join war,i guess some1 d say : GAMEY
-i think is quite important
btw i wanted only referring what happened
i ve accepted defeats and everything
but i hope everybody understand what really has happened
and it is called : powergamey
cya u next week
GN
i ve accepted defeats and everything
but i hope everybody understand what really has happened
and it is called : powergamey
cya u next week
GN
-Yes the dow was wrong I did apologise.DAGO said:
-I took the -6 stab hit anyway.
-Your own fault not to cancel MA
-be happy you are not a french vassal
Goodnight
ForzaA said:Date : 11-5-2004 Time : 14:48
From : devil FRA
it not like I plan to fight austria this session
Date : 11-5-2004 Time : 14:48
From : devil FRA
I won't move until nappy comes around
Date : 11-5-2004 Time : 14:49
From : devil FRA
of course you may plot to dow me, but that the way it is, I am playing with open cards
Wait, wait, we also heard something like that... Open cards, yes, that's the phrase!
And like Austria we were tricked!
Portugal, our target, was put under French protection! They wanted to prevent all our plans, but thank God they failed.
devil said:
1-u r lucky none joined ,coz after my comeback we just needed a strong naval power joined us and block sea
2-i m not french vassall coz sweden got my capital
u said : i m smart :rofl:
But you are, you saved blucherDAGO said:1-u r lucky none joined ,coz after my comeback we just needed a strong naval power joined us and block sea
2-i m not french vassall coz sweden got my capital
u said : i m smart :rofl:
The President is very pleased with the two latest wars against England, five provinces have been gained, including the two importent naval bases of Delaware and Manhattan. the struggle for an free America is not yet accomplished, although we will fight on until our goal is reached. It's sad to see the blind canadian leaders be ruled like slaves by the evil English. Our American people have been oppressed by the English people for centuries. The People of USA won't tolerate this anymore and England shall be thrown out of America, soon enough...