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Devil´s the stadholder now?

And now Denmark without any base at all gets Malacca? The Malacca CoT should disappear, or would all dutch colonies now still relocate their trade to Malacca?;)
 

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TheArchduke said:
Devil´s the stadholder now?

And now Denmark without any base at all gets Malacca? The Malacca CoT should disappear, or would all dutch colonies now still relocate their trade to Malacca?;)
Denmark participated in that war, we fought several naval battles and helped out with the seiges of Holland.
Danish king accept the treaty of Malacca and we thank the Swedish king for it's wise decision.
The Scandinavien people will stand together against any potential threats. :)
 

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TheArchduke said:
Devil´s the stadholder now?

And now Denmark without any base at all gets Malacca? The Malacca CoT should disappear, or would all dutch colonies now still relocate their trade to Malacca?;)

Denmark's navy was a crucial factor in defeating the Dutch navy.

And Denmark will have Malacca as a base :D
 

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Right after talking with all involved, a general peace has been accepted so the game can go on :)

There has been a lot of heavy discussion here, and both sides have argumented. But the general problem was people was talking about 2 different sides of the story.

On one side we have Damocles, he attacked holland cause of the english-dutch/french precedence, where turenne was in london, over a taiwan tp. Bad move and clear breaking of the rules. Hence damo interpreted the colonial/euro war rules from this.

The other side Forzaa and Barnius: Believes in the rules, but are forgetting the fact a precedence has been set. And looking in the mirror now, its allways easy to say damo should have been force peaced then.

The fact is we have a situation where both feel they have right, and but where both sides have errors in their arguments.

Hence it has been decided that the mallaca COT is ceded to denmark, and general peace will be signed. Also dutch navy that was lost due to the illegal occupation of the lowlands will be restored. Also Karl will be returned to sweden.


What to learn from this:

-No more colonial wars will be fought in europe. It will be allright to block a navy in a european port.

-No more oppertunism wars, all wars need to be role played, hence I expect to see some heavy diplomacy and RP from tomorrow on. I will not hesistate to force wp any nation that is deemed to break this.

-All wars be that colonial or european, no matter what, I as GM will need to accept them before the dow and be informed of goals.

-Of course if a side declares war to prevent the destruction of a nation, or to weaken an foe, without actually asking for provinces. It will be allright as long the intervention is RP'ed, e.g. trying diplomacy to force their will, before sending in the troops.

As a example of this: (lets use France shall we ;) )
France will not dow their good friend brandenburg, just because I have the ability to crush brandenburg. Neither will france dow venice, if they are in full fledged colonial war with other nations. Just because its easy prey...

ohh and if in doubt, please go ahead and ask me, I might have forget something since I am rather busy tonight.
 
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TheArchduke said:
Devil´s the stadholder now?

And now Denmark without any base at all gets Malacca? The Malacca CoT should disappear, or would all dutch colonies now still relocate their trade to Malacca?;)
Yes duke since you won't play I need to control holland. Though you are most welcome to return and try to restore dutch glory, of course if you feel up to the task :)

But no Mulliman will play holland again tomorrow. ;)
 
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Ah, that anglosaxon legislative... it's important to find a precedent, no matter what kind of it :D

Well, that's EUROPE universalis, not TEXAS universalis :rofl:

BTW, Devil, don't forget either to edit in British embargo against France or remove French against United Kingdom.

BTW BTW, it looks like some sort of Free Trade Federation is forming, a LARGE group of countries, COT owners and strong military forces, that believe selling trading "licences" was a bad idea. Who knows, perhaps they one day accept it was a VERY bad idea and start returning the money back... Than perhaps England will recognise that 500 d for Mississippi was in fact sort of payment for a "licence", but untill that happens our treasury is just finnishing regular annual reevaluation of that money, because the bill will be paid...
In the mean time, it looks like only France still doesn't see the light and dreams about some "licences"...
 

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Barnius said:
Ah, that anglosaxon legislative... it's important to find a precedent, no matter what kind of it :D

Well, that's EUROPE universalis, not TEXAS universalis :rofl:

BTW, Devil, don't forget either to edit in British embargo against France or remove French against United Kingdom.

BTW BTW, it looks like some sort of Free Trade Federation is forming, a LARGE group of countries, COT owners and strong military forces, that believe selling trading "licences" was a bad idea. Who knows, perhaps they one day accept it was a VERY bad idea and start returning the money back... Than perhaps England will recognise that 500 d for Mississippi was in fact sort of payment for a "licence", but untill that happens our treasury is just finnishing regular annual reevaluation of that money, because the bill will be paid...
In the mean time, it looks like only France still doesn't see the light and dreams about some "licences"...

Death to the capitalist dogs, eh? :D
 

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I am really glad that you guys patched this one up and pushed on. This is the first and only MP game I am keeping track of, and I must say that it has been quite entertaining. I would've been thoroughly disappointed had this one been given up. That said, good luck to everyone, and I can't wait for the last century's actions.

If I had a little more experience in MP, I would've offered myself as a sub, but, alas, I am very much fresh meat. :(
 

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BTTony said:
If I had a little more experience in MP, I would've offered myself as a sub, but, alas, I am very much fresh meat. :(

Feh, no such thing as fresh meat!

Its always okay to put a new player into a relatively small country and let him get his feet wet a bit. Better then the AI 9 times out of 10!
 

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Barnius said:
Ah, that anglosaxon legislative... it's important to find a precedent, no matter what kind of it :D

Well, that's EUROPE universalis, not TEXAS universalis :rofl:

BTW, Devil, don't forget either to edit in British embargo against France or remove French against United Kingdom.

BTW BTW, it looks like some sort of Free Trade Federation is forming, a LARGE group of countries, COT owners and strong military forces, that believe selling trading "licences" was a bad idea. Who knows, perhaps they one day accept it was a VERY bad idea and start returning the money back... Than perhaps England will recognise that 500 d for Mississippi was in fact sort of payment for a "licence", but untill that happens our treasury is just finnishing regular annual reevaluation of that money, because the bill will be paid...
In the mean time, it looks like only France still doesn't see the light and dreams about some "licences"...
Barnius I told you all embargoes are removed. If you want to embargo/ give me a cb on england, you just have to take the stab hit ;)

And please bring it on, try and and force me to open my cots to england ;) I promise you Villars will take london. :D :p
 

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Right I been looking at the AAR thread, that just not good enough, I hereby encourage all to being catching up on their AAR, French update will soon be there. Also all treaties you want edited in the save, need to be in the AAR, else they wont get in. :)
 

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devil said:
Barnius I told you all embargoes are removed. If you want to embargo/ give me a cb on england, you just have to take the stab hit ;)

And please bring it on, try and and force me to open my cots to england ;) I promise you Villars will take london. :D :p

England is used to live under 0 stability :)