Machiavelli II: The Rebirth

[TheArchduke]

Originally posted by Damocles
For Austria it was more a string of brutal force conversions, followed by annexation in separate wars.

The concept of an HRE with independent states under the Emperor has been abandoded and was in the 30YW in history. Only the defeat at the hands of Sweden and France forced another retreat of the imperial forces from various duchies.

1.)I am not going to sit around nicely when others go around and annex little nations left and right, whilst I sit on my ass. And the CRC gave the Habsburgs an excellent excuse to subdue the HRE.

2.)If some people like Mulliman and Slargos sissy around because they lost a war, fine by me. But particulary from Mulliman it is getting annoying.

 

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Originally posted by Peter Ebbesen
You will need to get those maps first, won't you?

If I had been Barnius I would have scouted the whole corridor some time during the 16th century with a conquistador. But the rules of the game perhaps forbid that or you had an agreement beforehand that he should not do it.

Or is the abundance of Portuguese historical conquistadors not existent in the 1520 scenario? Do they get most of them before that date? I do not remember exactly.

 

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Denmark still has a COT?

 

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Originally posted by Daniel A
If I had been Barnius I would have scouted the whole corridor some time during the 16th century with a conquistador. But the rules of the game perhaps forbid that or you had an agreement beforehand that he should not do it.

Or is the abundance of Portuguese historical conquistadors not existent in the 1520 scenario? Do they get most of them before that date? I do not remember exactly.

We have a conquistador right now and soon he will be free...

 

[Wyvern]

There are a number of issues that need to be addressed following last nights somewhat disappointing game. When I have more than a couple of minutes free time I'll post properly on the matter.

 

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Originally posted by Barnius
Denmark still has a COT?

I was quite suprised myself. But I won't complain.

 

[Hive]

Originally posted by Attila the Hun
Would thus someone pls enlighten me how bad England ended up, although I thought no AI bashing is allowed??!!!

I switched to England when the war came... but the fact that England's home fleet consisted of only 52 warships made the fight against Portugal and Spain's armadas pretty futile. Add to that the fact that they have a higher naval tech than England...

I promoted some mayors in colonies, and expanded other colonies. I also built an art manufactory in London, and got inflation down. And I tried to repair the damage a braindead England did to trade.

But... I wasted some time and money trying to search for riches in West Africa - only to find out that the Ottoman heathens had already taken everything of value there...

 

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2.)If some people like Mulliman and Slargos sissy around because they lost a war, fine by me. But particulary from Mulliman it is getting annoying.

Stop that Duke, ive said im not angry at you and that war was ages ago. You just go around and think im angry at you, interpreting everything i say as hostile .

 

[Peter Ebbesen]

Originally posted by Barnius
We have a conquistador right now and soon he will be free...

You will have to declare war on Russia to get into the Siberian corridor from either side, Barnius, for you sure as hell are not getting military access. One nation, and one nation only, has been given military access into Russia, and that nation was Poland in connection with the Polish heir's ascendancy during the time of troubles, and even that extraordinary access is fairly likely to be canceled with no hard feelings some time soon.

The Tsar Mikhail I Romanov says: Only Russian soldiers on Russian soil!

(And on other peoples' soil, occasionally )

 

[kurtbrian]

Originally posted by Peter Ebbesen
You will have to declare war on Russia to get into the Siberian corridor from either side, Barnius, for you sure as hell are not getting military access. One nation, and one nation only, has been given military access into Russia, and that nation was Poland in connection with the Polish heir's ascendancy during the time of troubles, and even that extraordinary access is fairly likely to be canceled with no hard feelings some time soon.

The Tsar Mikhail I Romanov says: Only Russian soldiers on Russian soil!

(And on other peoples' soil, occasionally )

Long Nose to Portugal...

 

[TheArchduke]

Originally posted by kurtbrian
Long Nose to Portugal...

Watch out else they come to sack your capital.

 

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Originally posted by Hive
I switched to England when the war came... but the fact that England's home fleet consisted of only 52 warships made the fight against Portugal and Spain's armadas pretty futile. Add to that the fact that they have a higher naval tech than England...

I promoted some mayors in colonies, and expanded other colonies. I also built an art manufactory in London, and got inflation down. And I tried to repair the damage a braindead England did to trade.

But... I wasted some time and money trying to search for riches in West Africa - only to find out that the Ottoman heathens had already taken everything of value there...

That's what you get for not reading our threads . Otherwyse you would know that there was a serious war over that some time ago, and that OE got it.

 

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Originally posted by Peter Ebbesen
You will have to declare war on Russia to get into the Siberian corridor from either side, Barnius, for you sure as hell are not getting military access. One nation, and one nation only, has been given military access into Russia, and that nation was Poland in connection with the Polish heir's ascendancy during the time of troubles, and even that extraordinary access is fairly likely to be canceled with no hard feelings some time soon.

The Tsar Mikhail I Romanov says: Only Russian soldiers on Russian soil!

(And on other peoples' soil, occasionally )

You (and all other) should not take everything I say too seriously . Basically I am trying to make some powers so allarmed that they finally decide to declare a colonial war or do something .

Or I will just have to use "Nippon Method": when 5 year truce was nearly over, I started filling Kansai COT with my merchants. And they find it smart to embatgo PTC. And now they don't find anything smart any more

 

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Originally posted by TheArchduke
Watch out else they come to sack your capital.

Exactly! I can sack Moscow and than sell all Russian maps to anyone I want

 

[Hive]

Originally posted by Barnius
That's what you get for not reading our threads . Otherwyse you would know that there was a serious war over that some time ago, and that OE got it.

Uhm yes, but I was asked by Wyvern to come sub asap - what do you think he would have said if I responded with "sure, just let me read your entire thread first!"?

Of course, I could just follow it daily - but frankly, I pay little interest in games I do not participate in myself...

 

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Originally posted by Hive
Uhm yes, but I was asked by Wyvern to come sub asap - what do you think he would have said if I responded with "sure, just let me read your entire thread first!"?

Of course, I could just follow it daily - but frankly, I pay little interest in games I do not participate in myself...

It's perfectly understandable, especially taking into account the NUMBER of posts following every session

 

[TheArchduke]

Originally posted by Barnius
It's perfectly understandable, especially taking into account the NUMBER of posts following every session

Luckily without BiB. I mean we would have 20-30 more pages of posts then.

 

[Peter Ebbesen]

Originally posted by Barnius
Or I will just have to use "Nippon Method": when 5 year truce was nearly over, I started filling Kansai COT with my merchants. And they find it smart to embatgo PTC. And now they don't find anything smart any more

Actually, when the five year period is over, I expect you to have to conquer the two provinces first, that I expect to be edited back to Nippon, given that you conquered five provinces from them in one war despite knowing that three was the max from non-Pagans. So, while you will no doubt end up controlling all of Japan (a scary thought in itself!) I predict it will take two more wars to do so, not one.

 

[Hive]

Originally posted by Barnius
It's perfectly understandable, especially taking into account the NUMBER of posts following every session

Exactly. Just look at the number of posts this morning alone...

Oh btw, I unknowingly broke your "no galleys outside certain waters" rule...o

Perhaps you can edit them to a lower number of warships instead?

Oh, and in case you wonder why I built galleys: Mulliman says they are good in home waters, they are cheap and they make the navy look big...

 

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Originally posted by Peter Ebbesen
Actually, when the five year period is over, I expect you to have to conquer the two provinces first, that I expect to be edited back to Nippon, given that you conquered five provinces from them in one war despite knowing that three was the max from non-Pagans. So, while you will no doubt end up controlling all of Japan (a scary thought in itself!) I predict it will take two more wars to do so, not one.

Nice try, but 3-province rule refers to European wars. Or not? The rule is at least dubious, although I admit I didn't think about it at all when fighting non-player nations!

Anyway, the outcome would by now be the same, so no need to bother with that