Machiavelli : Europe Arising

[Peter Ebbesen]

Originally posted by Barnius
I am very sorry to hear that. Hopefully Dutch did keep the no-crossing-the border agreement with Prussia.

They did. During the Imperial-Bourbon war, the Netherlands stayed neutral but aided the imperial war effort with a small pot of gold (~800d). After the war they allied with France.

With Prussia unwilling to fight even to retake her own provinces, Austria-Italia could not alone stand up to France when France began mopping up the western HRE, seing that

1. It was damn hard to react in time, given the speed of conquest (e.g. Helvetia, wiped out within two months of the declaration of war by France)
2. Dutch forces stood salivating (a most undistinguished spectacle) next to the Austrian lowlands
3. All major powers were in a race to get CCs first, or, at any rate, not too late compared to the opposition

 

[ForzaA]

Originally posted by Peter Ebbesen

3.
All major powers were in a race to get CCs first, or, at any rate, not too late compared to the opposition[/list]

so subtily but brutally dismissed to a second (or third) rate power

 

[ForzaA]

hmm... where did the "rulesdiscussion Machiavelli SE" go???

 

[Peter Ebbesen]

Originally posted by ForzaA
hmm... where did the "rulesdiscussion Machiavelli SE" go???

Changed name to something rather humorous. Look for a thread with a long title and a lot of posts in this forum. (No, not this one )

 

[artemis667]

Do you guys know that this thread is moving as fast (faster?) as the Insanity thread in the Off Topic forum? That scares me!

 

[ForzaA]

Originally posted by Peter Ebbesen
Changed name to something rather humorous. Look for a thread with a long title and a lot of posts in this forum. (No, not this one )

ah yes.. i found it, but i can't say i the new name covers the topic better.

 

[Smirfy]

Hope Barnius has a chance to do some of his excellent charts before Tuesdays session.

 

[ForzaA]

Originally posted by Smirfy
Hope Barnius has a chance to do some of his excellent charts before Tuesdays session.

yes.. and preferably with some hilarious (and dubious ) comments accompanying them

 

[kurtbrian]

Originally posted by artemis667
Do you guys know that this thread is moving as fast (faster?) as the Insanity thread in the Off Topic forum? That scares me!

well, maybe there is even more insanity going in here than in OT

 

[unmerged(5834)]

Hi

It looks like i have time this tuesday.
Is there any need for a sub?

 

[Peter Ebbesen]

Originally posted by kurtbrian
well, maybe there is even more insanity going in here than in OT

Might be. After all, this is the game in which, after the Prussian morale was shattered by Sweden last session, Prussia accepted an annexation offer from Austria-Italia - and did not seem too worried about whether the host managed to make a save in time before crashing after the annexation or not. (It was mostly a test to see if the annexation-crash bug was still in, but Kurtbrian truly did not seem to mind if it succeded at the time )

Unfortunately, the host did not manage to make a save in time (slacker! or, perhaps, all the Bourbons were pressing the TAB key like mad to crash before the save ), so we did not get an Austria-Italia-Prussia, which would have been an instant #1 on the hitlist, and been able to stand up to France for the rest of the session

 

[BiB]

Originally posted by Kalpeti
Hi

It looks like i have time this tuesday.
Is there any need for a sub?

Yup, that'd be great.

 

[unmerged(5161)]

2 things:

1. Fate has gone totally AWOL. The last communique I know of is him telling Konstantin that he just bought a month of play for Planetside. He totally disappeared for both last night and tonight's game of "L'ere Des Rois" and is currently occupying the number one spot on "Ryoken's Most Wanted Dead List"

2. Barnius, have no fear, the Dutch are here. Despite the abyssmal stability fiasco of the first session I was subbing for you, the second went phenomenally well. Dutch income is up to over 300 now, we are leading the world in naval tech by several techs, tied with Spain for number one in land tech, and nearly half-way to Infra and Trade tech 9. Our marketshare is immense, colonies are heavily populated and expanding, several shipyards are under constuction, inflation is down, and the sky is bright and shiny over Holland. Do not be afraid!

 

[Damocles]

Ryoken has a spooky ability to always lower inflation

 

[RedPhoenix]

Originally posted by Damocles
Ryoken has a spooky ability to always lower inflation

where have you been damocles? missed you in don2 power shortages?

 

[unmerged(10146)]

Originally posted by Peter Ebbesen
They did. During the Imperial-Bourbon war, the Netherlands stayed neutral but aided the imperial war effort with a small pot of gold (~800d). After the war they allied with France.

With Prussia unwilling to fight even to retake her own provinces, Austria-Italia could not alone stand up to France when France began mopping up the western HRE, seing that

1. It was damn hard to react in time, given the speed of conquest (e.g. Helvetia, wiped out within two months of the declaration of war by France)
2. Dutch forces stood salivating (a most undistinguished spectacle) next to the Austrian lowlands
3. All major powers were in a race to get CCs first, or, at any rate, not too late compared to the opposition

My dear Emperor, not knowing the detailes, I can only say it was VERY disturbing reading about your peace proposal that offered everything but Flandres to France, while keeping Flandres for Austria

 

[unmerged(10146)]

Originally posted by ryoken69
2 things:

1. Fate has gone totally AWOL. The last communique I know of is him telling Konstantin that he just bought a month of play for Planetside. He totally disappeared for both last night and tonight's game of "L'ere Des Rois" and is currently occupying the number one spot on "Ryoken's Most Wanted Dead List"

2. Barnius, have no fear, the Dutch are here. Despite the abyssmal stability fiasco of the first session I was subbing for you, the second went phenomenally well. Dutch income is up to over 300 now, we are leading the world in naval tech by several techs, tied with Spain for number one in land tech, and nearly half-way to Infra and Trade tech 9. Our marketshare is immense, colonies are heavily populated and expanding, several shipyards are under constuction, inflation is down, and the sky is bright and shiny over Holland. Do not be afraid!

You can't talk like that! Not after I almost succeeded in making everyone realise how poor, underdeveloped and backwards Dutch are...

Thanks for your great work. I appreciate it really very very much.

 

[unmerged(10146)]

Originally posted by Smirfy
Hope Barnius has a chance to do some of his excellent charts before Tuesdays session.

If I get the save I will find some time today or tomorrow in the evening. I am rather interesting to see the numbers myself

 

[Smirfy]

Originally posted by Barnius
If I get the save I will find some time today or tomorrow in the evening. I am rather interesting to see the numbers myself

Could Bib post up the file for Barnius

 

[Peter Ebbesen]

Originally posted by Barnius
My dear Emperor, not knowing the detailes, I can only say it was VERY disturbing reading about your peace proposal that offered everything but Flandres to France, while keeping Flandres for Austria

Why disturbing? As nobody but the imperial alliance was willing to stand up to the French, it was a most sensible compromise.