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Originally posted by FAL
I don't think that many players would not loose much while playing countries like Denmark and Brandenburg.
It is all about rolling with the punches. Prussia got hit very badly by Sweden and ceded 3 provinces for peace (Prussia itself and all of Pommerania) which also knocked Prussia out of the Imperial vs Bourbon war hastening its end.

A bad defeat, yes, but one from which Prussia could easily recover, as the emperor pledged 150,000 Imperial Stormtroopers and financial aid to retake the Swedish gains after the end of the Bourbon war.

However, Kurtbrian's morale had been completely destroyed at that point due to the Swedish shock value, and he showed no interest in retaking his provinces, whatsoever, nor in taking any actions but turtling down for the rest of the session. While I appreciate that Kurtbrian stuck around rather than just quitting, it was basically a carte blanché for France (in alliance with the Dutch) to continue conquering the minor German States over the next 20 years.

I am sort of torn between sadness at seing a pleasant player leave the game and relief that he does not continue as Prussia, to be frank. Prussia is now, due to events, leaders, good play, and generous funding from Spain and Austria-Italia, an army with a country (as historical) rather than a country with an army, and whether it continues as an Imperial ally or decides to run its own game in the north, the last thing Prussia needs is timidity in military matters.

I would suggest that Kurtbrian not forsake MP entirely, but rather join some games where he plays majors (other than Austria, as an Austrian start in MP can be fully as brutal as playing a nation next to Sweden), until he has learned to enjoy both taking and receiving blows (although the joy in the latter is mostly that of plotting a fitting revenge), in an environment where a defeat means comparatively less.

I could see Kurtbrian running a nice Spain or England :)
 
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Originally posted by BiB

However, the solution to the being a bad loser problem is not quitting but making xure u don't lose ;)

no.. i dont think BiB will want to play Ryazan next time :)
 

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Originally posted by BiB
What he said.

However, the solution to the being a bad loser problem is not quitting but making xure u don't lose ;)

Anyway, I don't think anyone likes losing much :D

but if you don't play, you won't loose, correct? ;)
 

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Originally posted by kurtbrian
but if you don't play, you won't loose, correct? ;)
If you don't start spelling "lose" with only one "o", you will not survive to play in the long run anyhow :D
 

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Originally posted by Peter Ebbesen
If you don't start spelling "lose" with only one "o", you will not survive to play in the long run anyhow :D

yeah yeah, make fun of my language as well as my way of playing...:D
 

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Originally posted by kurtbrian
yeah yeah, make fun of my language as well as my way of playing...:D

We aren't making fun of ur playing! :D

As Peter said, it's sad to see a pleasant player leave, those are the best to have.

But when u aren't even interested in swapping Prussia for Spain there isn't much hope to get u back in, eh? :D

But u should be over it by the time we start a new game, no? :D
 

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Originally posted by kurtbrian
yeah yeah, make fun of my language as well as my way of playing...:D
I aim to please :)

...Nah, you are a good sport, but you do seem to take defeat in games too seriously. Remember to get even, not angry or dejected.
 

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well, I don't think I will play when you start a new game.

and thank you for the kind words...
 

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Originally posted by Peter Ebbesen
...Nah, you are a good sport, but you do seem to take defeat in games too seriously. Remember to get even, not angry or dejected.

Hence me quitting...;)
 

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Originally posted by kurtbrian
hmmm.....no.

I'm not that into cheats....:D

ok.. so we have to cover it up a bit :)

just the good old "no persia" culture rule, and you as Persia :p

I KNOW! why not add Prussia to the Danish crown domains?? (including cores and culture) so that both KB's countries can get even with Sweden at once :rolleyes: :D
 

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I have to say im sorry that KB is leaving. If only he didnt end up in the countries destined to be butt kicked, he would realize what a capable player he is...:(
 

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I am sort of torn between sadness at seing a pleasant player leave the game and relief that he does not continue as Prussia, to be frank. Prussia is now, due to events, leaders, good play, and generous funding from Spain and Austria-Italia, an army with a country (as historical) rather than a country with an army, and whether it continues as an Imperial ally or decides to run its own game in the north, the last thing Prussia needs is timidity in military matters.


*perks up*

I'll volunteer to play Prussia.

To hell with the navy! :D
 

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Originally posted by Mulliman
I have to say im sorry that KB is leaving. If only he didnt end up in the countries destined to be butt kicked, he would realize what a capable player he is...:(

Next time we offer him France or Spain.:D
 

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Originally posted by kurtbrian
Right.

This time its for real.

I'm out.

I'm a bad loser and I hate loosing wars. That unfortunately cannot be avoided when playing multiplayer, and instead if ruining the game for the rest of you when my country enters temporal stasis after defeat in war, I'd rather quit.

No, I'm not doing it for the greater good of humanity but simply because I'm a bad loser.

(And I won't change my mind this time - how would it make me look if I threatened to quit twice and then stayed on)

I am very sorry to hear that. Hopefully Dutch did keep the no-crossing-the border agreement with Prussia.
 

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Originally posted by BiB
Spain 1702-1727

Income 509.12 > 551.89 (at stab +3)
BB 0.0 > 0.0 :D
Inflation 28.0 > 20.0 (deflation event heaven considering I minted quite a bit for those CCs)
Land 30 > 42 (had to focus on this to get to CCs first)
Naval 26 > 31 (neglected this a bit, quite behind the Dutch now)
Trade 9 > 9
Infra 9 > 9

Where's that ahead of time penalty when u need it?

Originally posted by Peter Ebbesen
... it was basically a carte blanché for France (in alliance with the Dutch) to continue conquering the minor German States over the next 20 years.

If only I could get some numbers for poor underdeveloped and tech-backwards Netherlands...
Well, I suppose the main goal - the largest monthly income - is still far from being accomplished. From very limited info I have, I would say Bourons should rearrange their all over the world posessions: France should control DIRECTLY some key colonial areas, like Central and South American gold.
Dutch would, naturally, be a good ally and for that they should get all Spanish Islands. Spain - the land without islands! That sounds really good :D
 

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Originally posted by Barnius
I am very sorry to hear that. Hopefully Dutch did keep the no-crossing-the border agreement with Prussia.

I don't think there was a war between Prussia and Holland. If there were they certainly lived up to the agreement