Macedonia discussion thread

[unmerged(94156)]

Cosolidate.
Still like the idea of a powerful navy which would allow taking advantage of opportunities as they arise. Meddling in the affairs of the superpowers would then be a possibility.

 

[Lord E]

Very cool to see a Rome AAR, and so far it seems like things are going pretty well.

The two wars have been fought well, but your manpower issue will put a stop to military conquest for some time I guess. Maybe it is now instead time to focus on peaceful expansion by colonizing some of those barbarian territories

 

[Vladislav]

We are carving out a nice little empire for ourselves. Let's focus on colonization and diplomacy until our manpower reserves are restored, and only then can we consider going on the offensive once more.

 

[ElectricEel]

With the manpower situation as it is, getting into any major war for at least the next ten years is right out, and starting to build a navy now probably isn't wise for the same reason. I think the economy should be the focus in the near future.

What kind of economic improvements can you build in your provinces? Are technological advances likely to bring any new possibilities on this front in the near future?

 

[Van Diemen]

I have a minor question about the characters stats. What can the characters themselves do with money? And why do the characters have much more money than the state has in total? Furthermore can the state take money from the characters (as being enemies of Rome).

 

[Woody Man]

We are carving out a nice little empire for ourselves. Let's focus on colonization and diplomacy until our manpower reserves are restored, and only then can we consider going on the offensive once more.

Agreed, the last war really did a number on our manpower, I think a nice steady peacetime increase in the economy would do us good.

 

[Pro]

What you mean? it IS slightly more than a generation.

Usually generations are counted as 30 years on average

 

[ElectricEel]

I have a minor question about the characters stats. What can the characters themselves do with money? And why do the characters have much more money than the state has in total? Furthermore can the state take money from the characters (as being enemies of Rome).

From one of the dev diaries and a mini-AAR:

... Now the civil wars themselves are very much character driven, as their loyalty shifts they will switch sides throughout the conflict. Wealthy characters will raise troops (loyal to themselves) or contribute to the treasury. ...

... Things sure were looking grim now, but the worst was yet to come. My king and some loyal nobles spend their personal wealth in setting up a new army together with recruits that should have been able to contain them [the rival faction in the civil war]...

 

[unmerged(58610)]

Solid gains there, King. You left enough of Illtia to distract barbarian raids - one helped you conquer them - and there;s a bunch of barbarians in Tribulani returning from a successful raid.Sincxe they've been successful there, resumably they'll go back home, recruit a bigger horde and repeat the process. That could collapse the eleucids in Asia Minor. 4 barbarian provinces gives something for the colonists to do.

I'm a bit worried about that rival's finesse ability. And the heiress. Suitors coming to court offering their services is one hing, when they ring armies at their backs that's quite another.

 

[unmerged(58610)]

Solid gains there, King. You left enough of Illtia to distract barbarian raids - one helped you conquer them - and there;s a bunch of barbarians in Triballi returning from a successful raid.Since they've been successful there, resumably they'll go back home, recruit a bigger horde and repeat the process. That could collapse the Seleucids in Asia Minor. 4 barbarian provinces gives something for the colonists to do.

I'm a bit worried about that rival's finesse ability. And the heiress. Suitors coming to court offering their services is one thing, when they bring armies at their back that's quite another.

 

[lordy80011]

Wow -- I just had my first chance to have a look at this AAR and I just wanted to thank you for putting this out there King! I am really excited to be able to see screenshots of the game in action. This game looks phenomenally engaging! I'll have to avoid purchasing it until I graduate in a year, so that I can continue to keep my grades up, I guess!

Cheers!

 

[unmerged(91879)]

Congrats on the war King. If Macedonia wants to be a real power it needs to protect itself from the Selucids and Rome. One easy way to do that is to build up the navy.

 

[unmerged(84988)]

I see the game has a RTW-like family system and whatnot.

 

[Aleksei]

No, it has a family system somewhat like Crusader Kings.

 

[comagoosie]

King is looking awesome, I fear this game may be too easy

 

[unmerged(59737)]

Consolidate: Diplomacy in Greece, trade routes, buildings, a navy, maybe some colonization if you’re army feels up to it.

 

[Snall]

Usually generations are counted as 30 years on average

I have always counted a generation as 20 years. Also I LOVE that "will take a generation for the manpower pool to recover." That's sweeeeeeet. STABILIZE NOW! Trade and allies baby.

EDIT- Character wealth; characters can use it to raise their own troops in civil wars, either for or against you..what else they can do I have no idea.

 

[unmerged(51416)]

It's high time to use our goverment's bonus. Consolidation sounds great: you could earn a lot of money through trade (and use this nice bonus your government give), spend some on colonization and, again , fleet. Hopefuly fleet won't cost us manpower, thus allowing to (eventually) weaken one of our rivals without too big losses.

Why is everyone voting for a navy? :wacko: There seems to be plenty of oppurtunity for land based expansion. Aren't navies expensive? If they are it is better to focus on the economy.

Well, look at map. We call this world 'Mediterraean' becouse it was centered around sea. Sea gives plenty of oportunities for expansion and gives security to Macedonia. All those barbarian provinces are very poor and will take significant investments to colonize and keep away from barbarians. Macedonia is the weakest of great powers - you see how costly was to go to war against Illyria. We aren't prepared to face Rome/Carthage/Seleucids. Improving wealth/powerbase is necessary if King is to succeed.

Last, but not least, hegemony over sea was very important during Rome's timeline. Rome's sea supremacy allowed it to contain Hannibal, defeat Macedonia (202-197 BC) and cut of Mithrydates's forces in Greece (88 BC), not mentioning many other cases.

 

[unmerged(59737)]

Also, Rhodes looks like it’ll still be low hanging fruit 20 years from now.

EDIT: On the other hand, relations with Rhodes and Crete are good. Decisions, decisions...

 

[Snall]

I just think our economic/military land capacity is not large enough for us to be spending huge reams of talents in building a navy capable of competing with the big boys. I do agree economic prosperity is now the way to try to build, long trade routes etc.