Loyalty going down

[herm]

Is there anybody who knows what it is in the game that makes ones vassals loyalty jump down by maybe 5-20%?

This happens even when they have a positive monthly loyalty change.

 

[unmerged(21447)]

There are probably others, but :
- Mobilizing their troops (in addition to the loyalty penalty if you haven't mobilized yours first)
- A change of liege (your heir has to rewin their loyalty)
- A change of vassal (if one of them dies, his heir has to learn to love you)
- Revoking the title of any vassal will also drop the loyalty of all your vassals.

 

[unmerged(12746)]

There are probably others, but :
- Mobilizing their troops (in addition to the loyalty penalty if you haven't mobilized yours first)
- A change of liege (your heir has to rewin their loyalty)
- A change of vassal (if one of them dies, his heir has to learn to love you)
- Revoking the title of any vassal will also drop the loyalty of all your vassals.

Add to this list changing laws

 

[herm]

Yeah, I know about those, the thing is that I am not doing anything, just watching the loyalty % figure of my vassals and letting the time run and suddenly my vassal whos loyalty is at +1,6 (monthly) or something goes down from like 30% to 20% or lower.

What could cause something like that, could it be some outside event like someone offering my vassals to become their vassals?

 

[unmerged(14905)]

Some laws increase or decrease loyalty over time (regal supremacy - feudal contracts, and the others two in that section I dont recall the names... just read the tooltip and the descriptions, my friend).

 

[unmerged(12746)]

Yeah, I know about those, the thing is that I am not doing anything, just watching the loyalty % figure of my vassals and letting the time run and suddenly my vassal whos loyalty is at +1,6 (monthly) or something goes down from like 30% to 20% or lower.

What could cause something like that, could it be some outside event like someone offering my vassals to become their vassals?

Whats your reputation? And whats your scutage?

Other then that I dont know what it could be.

 

[unmerged(15089)]

Character traits lower loyalty if they are mismatched between liege and vassal. Not visible in-game (except with the mod in my signature )

 

[InnocentIII]

Some laws increase or decrease loyalty over time (regal supremacy - feudal contracts, and the others two in that section I dont recall the names... just read the tooltip and the descriptions, my friend).

IMHO this ought to be listed in the monthly change figures. If Law X makes loyalty go down 5% monthly, then the loyalty tooltip ought to include the 5% into the calculation.