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Middle Earth shall be ruled by a Hobbit! The heir of Isildur will serve as his court jester. And fair Arwen his lady.
 

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A lot of the map would be unused. Maybe something based on The History of Middle Earth, where the kings of men and elves and Morgoth/Sauron were actually warring. I think it's when the Dunedain first come that all that starts happening? Either way, LotR wouldn't offer too much warring or inter-cultural marriage, each group of people has long established their lands.
 

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This game?
Erm, eu3 will be better.
Most of LotR world isn't hereditary.

I've never played EU3, but I don't know why this game won't work. LotR has medieval era technology and customs. Crusades could be good vs. evil, like a crusade for Mordor (assuming that the game started pre-LotR series). It would work great and I'm surprised no one has already done it.
 

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In CK2 it is more about who you marry and dynasties it does not fir well with the scattered remnants of once glorious civilizations + inter species relations would be almost unheard of (except for the Dúnedain) and only hostile takeovers would then be possible leaving out a lot of the diplomacy and plotting that makes this game so great. I agree that a set up with the EU engine sounds like a better idea.
 

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if you dig a bit the idea of the concept, you will find where difficulties and inconsistencies of such mod lies.
-no religions
-Mordor ? an empire without any nobility, any vassals, any holdings... (yes, 3 castle and a field of lava)
-hobbits ? at best more or less cities holdings, no castles, no ability at warring...
-are there orcs female ?
-Elven, can work but immortality kills the dynastic games
-humans ? can work.
-lack of database : provinces, nobility, dynasties.
-needs a lot of specific graphic files like portraits that is very time consuming.
...

all this would need a lot of adapation taht can drive the concept a bit too far from Tolkien's work IMHO.
OC, you can try it by yourself, there was a few attempts back then, you can start on it.
 

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The best time for it to be set in would be after Feanor's curse. The marriage could be fixed because of the MUST NOT MARRY AN INFIDEL malus.
That would make for a quite boring game as the only way to expand would be war. No diplomacy with other races seems quite restrictive I guess this is why it has not been made.
 

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In CK2 it is more about who you marry and dynasties it does not fir well with the scattered remnants of once glorious civilizations + inter species relations would be almost unheard of (except for the Dúnedain) and only hostile takeovers would then be possible leaving out a lot of the diplomacy and plotting that makes this game so great. I agree that a set up with the EU engine sounds like a better idea.

Good point. I am now convinced.
 

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That would make for a quite boring game as the only way to expand would be war. No diplomacy with other races seems quite restrictive I guess this is why it has not been made.

Not in the timeperiod Beric Dondarrion was talking about. In that time period (beginning of the War of the Jewels) almost everyone is an elf, and could and did intermarry. You have the Wood Elves including Doriath and Ossiriand, and then the Noldor Elves in places like Nargothrond, Gondolin, etc. There's orcs in the north under Morgoth, and probably Dwarves and Men would later arrive from the East, but at the start most of the gameplay would involve the elves, fighting Morgoth and each other.

Still wouldn't be a great game due to the immortality though...
 

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I would like to point out, before anyone gets too hard-up on the idea of a LoTR mod, publicizing any aspect of it will likely lead to a cease and desist from WB. It just happened today on a Middle Earth mod that was being built for 8 years for Oblivion. Even though nobody got money, WB shut them down.
 

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I would like to point out, before anyone gets too hard-up on the idea of a LoTR mod, publicizing any aspect of it will likely lead to a cease and desist from WB. It just happened today on a Middle Earth mod that was being built for 8 years for Oblivion. Even though nobody got money, WB shut them down.

Not if we call it a Silmarillion mod! Right...RIGHT?
 

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Not if we call it a Silmarillion mod! Right...RIGHT?

Rename it "Lordy Ringz" and replace every last letter of a characters name with a z. Frodz, Pippiz, Gandalz. This will preserve realism and foster a sense of immersion.
That will not work you can't open a burger joint and call it Mac Danalds either it is infringement of copyrights. I am actually amazed the GoT mod does not get a seize and desist order but the company that owns the rights to LoIaF must be somewhat lenient as the mod is no secret and is even used for advertising the vanilla game on Steam and I am sure a lot of other sites. (prob not by paradox themselves as they could burn their fingers)
 

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