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Feb 23, 2002
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I found some banners from lotr, if anyone wants to make some. :)

martucci-gondor.htm


isengard.gif


mordor.gif


rohan.gif


dale.gif


here

too bad these are low quality:(
 

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Civis Barcinonensis
Apr 8, 2002
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Well, here there are other versions...
 

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Civis Barcinonensis
Apr 8, 2002
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Originally posted by Mormegil
So, anyone made some yet?:D
gondor.gif
:D

but it's from another source, and not the best I've seen
 

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Lt. General
Jan 21, 2002
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Well.

Having looked over the IGC recently, I was struck by the nonstandard borders for the Aztecs, Iroquois, and Nippon (and at least one other that I'm not recalling offhand). It got me thinking. Shield shape varied significantly with location; for example (going by memory, since heraldica.org seems to be having trouble at the moment):

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In Italy, the shield of a coat of arms was often a shape derived from a horse's facial armor.

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In Iberian heraldry a squarish shield with a slight point at the bottom was most common.

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In late French heraldry shields tended toward the same, but with pointed upper corners.

The only reference to oval escutcheons (as in EU2) in heraldry that I found was on this page, which mentions that they were often used for the arms of priests and ladies, who were not expected to fight.

If nothing else, using squared shields would greatly simplify making quartered CoA's like Burgundy and Denmark.

The idea should have obvious applicability to Tolkien's heraldry, where shape is significant and the number of points reaching the shield's edge is of great importance.


Has anyone experimented with using strange shapes? I'd think the shield displayed in the upper left corner of the user interface, and also the small message indicators in the upper right for peace offerings and such, might be problematic.
 

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Jan 21, 2002
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Originally posted by Korath
Has anyone experimented with using strange shapes? I'd think the shield displayed in the upper left corner of the user interface, and also the small message indicators in the upper right for peace offerings and such, might be problematic.
(Bleah, replying to myself.)

Having just done said experimentation, the biggest ugliness isn't the message indicators (though they're ugly) nor the upper left UI shield (though it's uglier), but the little flames that appear around the shield in the diplomacy map to indicate a state of war. For some unfathomable reason, the flames are drawn in front of the shield instead of behind it; the outline of the standard shield's border is cut directly out of the flames' graphics. So we can't have do weirdly-shaped shields, sigh.

On the other hand, nothing stops us from making frames within the usual border, as in
Thingol; they just don't look as keen as a properly-shaped border.

On the other (third!) hand, the more usual shield shapes above should turn out better than the Tolkienian diamond.