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San Crispin

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Hi,

I don´t know what just happened, but I am going to reload an old save. The Umayyad started conquering Aquitania early in the game, The Pope called us for the Crusade, and I was playing as Count of Asturias de Santillana. I had nearly 500 faith so I hired all the holy orders. Two of them dissappeared, but I saw them coming slowly, walking all the way from the Papacy under the control of someone else.

But that was not a big problem after all...

I managed to defeat the Muslims with a good score thanks to the holy orders, and I was granted all territories of Aquitania. I crowned myself as a Great Duke, still under the orders of the young king of Asturias, who decided to declare war again to the Umayyad for Navarra. Even though my income was 1 ducat until the next year... And my levies were, hmm, my cousin and his 5 friends.

Things were looking too bad for my silly king, and I was planning to take the power creating a faction. His army got crushed by the Muslims, and after some time he hired 2100 of my men after the 1 year penaly was gone. They were crushed too. But suddenly, he decided to create the Kingdom of Aquitania. He had 2 titles, lost the war, and I was thinking to take his primary title of Asturias, and then usurp Aquitania.

I created a faction with 3800% strength and he resigned his primary title. And this happened:
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What did I do wrong? I think it is a bug. He got all my territories and vassals. In exchange, he lost his vassals, Asturias de Oviedo and Leon, but kept Burgos for some reason. I guess that if I had claimed Aquitania instead, I would have become independent without losing my vassals, except maybe Asturias de Santillana and Vizcaya (which I won by war against an ally). But thats not what I want anyway. I want to be his king.

Should I have just done that before he created the kingdom of Aquitania? I didn't check the strength of the faction until the war finished. Would that have stopped the war for Navarra?

Thanks,
Crispi
 

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Would appear like a bug to me, but might as well be working as designed.
Hmm..don't know, but its interesting.

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He had two king titles, so obviously he can't become your vassal until you usurp all his king titles.
 

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He had two king titles, so obviously he can't become your vassal until you usurp all his king titles.

His issue is that he lost his vassals in Aquitaine, not that his former liege didn't become his vassal.
 

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His issue is that he lost his vassals in Aquitaine, not that his former liege didn't become his vassal.

I want to be his king.

Should I have just done that before he created the kingdom of Aquitania?

I could have misunderstood it but that was my understanding. I also understand that another issue is the loss of vassals but I had nothing interesting to say on the matter and so I did not mention it.