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Captain Gars

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If an AI clan leader succeeds in his bid for the shogunate, does the game end for the human player?

Actually, should the game end?

Since the game is about becoming shogun, yes, if an AI clan leader succeeds it will be game over.
 

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Well there will be a time limit during which you must keep the shogunate together (though not as long as 20 years). It's not like you reach the minimum province level necessary and the game suddenly ends.
 

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Once a player, or the AI, control X% of Japan (the exact limit is not set in stone yet - and it will be moddable) he can declare himself Shogun. To become recognized as Shogun he however needs to hold this position - not slipping under the X% - for a number of months/years (again not set yet).

During this time:
a) other clans may attack him (and they will perceive him as the bigger threat)
b) parts of his clan may break out and establish themselves as independent clans
c) a member of the same dynasty may try and usurp the clan leader title through a plot
d) you might lose the clan leader title in election when your character dies

That a clan reaches the position of claiming themselves Shogun but then crumbles due to any one or a combination of the reasons listed above is not unhistorical - it happen a number of time. See Nobunaga and Hideyoshi.

I hope that make things a little clearer :)