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Hmm, it should be allowed to declare independence as Satellite. I hope they will fix or add that because it should be fun to start as a Satellite and then fight for freedom.
 

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Hmm, it should be allowed to declare independence as Satellite. I hope they will fix or add that because it should be fun to start as a Satellite and then fight for freedom.

I do think it can be done via event/decision though, just gotta script it.
 
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As a related question, I've asked this a number of times already, but how do you annex a satellite? Do you first cut him down in size to one province, and in the next war you would get an option to annex it? With sattelite provinces costing way more warscore than ordinary, that seems like a bit of a hassle.
 

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As a related question, I've asked this a number of times already, but how do you annex a satellite? Do you first cut him down in size to one province, and in the next war you would get an option to annex it? With sattelite provinces costing way more warscore than ordinary, that seems like a bit of a hassle.

if you look at a lot of the decisions and events the game seems to be designed for satellites over annexation. There tax/revolt benefits are there if they are your satellites and the satellite nation will recruit troops for you. That being said I also wish as a satellite you could revolt from your overlord, Saxony would be a great nation for this.
 

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Indeed sir, I think in the mean time I will attempt to devise a generic decision for satellites to allow them to "leave" the partnership.
 

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As a related question, I've asked this a number of times already, but how do you annex a satellite? Do you first cut him down in size to one province, and in the next war you would get an option to annex it? With sattelite provinces costing way more warscore than ordinary, that seems like a bit of a hassle.

Well you don't negotiate with the satellite at all, but only his master. If you want it as a satellite yourself that is easily done, however outright annexation seems nearly impossible. For some strange reason, the satellite's cities are prized more highly by the master than his own cities. What makes this even worse is that the warscore of 100 you built against the satelite doesn't seem to actually mean anything at all. It is only the warscore directly agaisnt the master that counts.
 

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Indeed sir, I think in the mean time I will attempt to devise a generic decision for satellites to allow them to "leave" the partnership.

I think the satellite relationship was the same kind of partnership as that between the Godfather and his many friends who come to him for favors and are always happy to do favors and provide funds for him in return. If such friends choose to no longer be friends, the results could be tragic. A painful decision indeed for such foolish misguided former friends.