Looks like AI and performance are in the shitters again

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DàbiànLājīdàrén

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Based off of a front page reddit post. Can't link, but you can go look for it if you want.

Seriously hope this is fixed by launch date.
 

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Typically, when Paradox gives streamers/YouTubers advance copies they also put in place a review block up until game release. I wonder if that reddit poster is breaking his NDA by posting a "review" before the release date.

I'm not saying his/her points aren't helpful. They are. He or she probably should've waited a few days before posting the review, depending on what the conditions were for the pre-release copy.
 
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Oh No. I don't have a top tier CPU and the performance gain was one of the things I was most excited about. Then again, this is just one report. haven't heard similar complaints from other streamers. Will have to wait and see.

Edit: Could also be that the Preview copies are actually "hot-code"? And not entirely indicative of the release version? That would mean that PDX works on the code up until the last minute. And I don't know their working philosophy on this matter.
 

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Honesty if what he is saying is true this is very concerning. Then again I know the mod I use that improves the AI will update after 2.2 is release, so at least there is that.
 

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Why can't you link? Is there a forum rule against linking to the subreddit or a technical block?
Now that I have the forum rules in front of me, it does look like linking to the subreddit could be considered a violation of rule 7.
 

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It is concerning. I've been watching streamers play and I have noticed that the AI appears to be struggling in a lot of the games so I'm afraid that issue may be ubiquitous. Performance could be based on specific hardware setups so it's hard to know how prevalent that problem will be based on a single report.
 

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Since there's question over whether linking is allowed, and since the OP of the reddit thread invited people to repost, I'll just drop the whole thing here in spoiler tags.

Edit: Removing full text as the post in question has also been edited out.
 
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From the screenshots it looks like this reviewer has all the graphical pretties turned up high (or at least higher than I typically play), people concerned about performance who are willing to compromise on graphics may not encounter the reviewer's performance troubles. That empty sector bug looks absolutely infuriating, though, hope they squash that one quick.
 

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Yeah not suprising, just like 1.5 and 2.0 I fully expected 2.2 to be a buggy, unbalanced mess of a patch. It may sound harsh, but I think it is understandable due to the sheer massive scope of changes in this patch, and it is just the reality of big stellaris patches. We will probably have to wait for Paradox to roll out the patches to address most of these issues. Hopefully we will get 1 or 2 before they go on winter break.
 

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Yeah not suprising, just like 1.5 and 2.0 I fully expected 2.2 to be a buggy, unbalanced mess of a patch. It may sound harsh, but I think it is understandable due to the sheer massive scope of changes in this patch, and it is just the reality of big stellaris patches. We will probably have to wait for Paradox to roll out the patches to address most of these issues. Hopefully we will get 1 or 2 before they go on winter break.
I was expecting a bit of a mess, but not what was described in the reddit post. 2.0 had its problems, but nothing like this.
Lets hope the release wont be quite THAT bad.
 

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2.0 had its problems, but nothing like this.

The descriptions on here of 2.0 wrecking or crippling the AI were consistent enough to keep me from updating past 1.9 for a long time. It does sort of seem like major Stellaris game reworks need several months of smaller patches to iron them out before they're truly playable.
 

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There's no way of knowing when the preview reddit is barking about was built, so there is a good chance some of what he's describing will be smoothed out before launch. We'll see, I suppose.
 

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This will sound horrible, but it's my fault. I'd rather get it sooner and need tweaking than wait six months and still need it.
 

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Are you serious? Completely broken AI that doesn't build fleets (as in 2k fleet power 80+ years in)? I did notice this in a let's play that was released as well but I was hoping it was because of an easy difficulty level.

The hype has been shattered for me.
 

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From the screenshots it looks like this reviewer has all the graphical pretties turned up high (or at least higher than I typically play), people concerned about performance who are willing to compromise on graphics may not encounter the reviewer's performance troubles.

It's possible this won't fix performance issues related to AI decision making, as a lot of those will be done by the CPU, when most of the rendering and graphics will be handled by whatever GPU you have onboard.
 

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  • Crusader Kings II
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Europa Universalis IV
My guess is that Paradox might be waiting to do a big update for the ai in the future, once they have finished the overhauls to all the different systems, we know that a diplomacy overhaul is in the works. Basically waiting until all the big changes are done to get the ai working really well instead of having to do it for each overhaul.