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It have been a long time since I played this game now but this is something I always been wondering about... Why cannot you colonize like crazy? can you only colonize an special province from time to time? like almost never? I want to play as one of the countries in Spain or in England but there is alot I dont know
 

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The reason why you can't colonize as the tribal states in Iberia and Britannia is probably because the civilization rating in your provinces is too low, it must be at least 50 before you can colonize nearby provinces.

If you want to create an empire in these territories I suggest you either 'cheat' and edit the history files to increase your civ rating, or download a mod that adds more tribes in these areas, such as Epigoni or Lofman's Mod.
 

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So the civilization rating is to low eh? how long time could that take? can I colonize all the nearby colony when I get the right civilization rate?

Yes, as long as the border provice has 10 population too at least for each colonisation.
 

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So you are useing the civilization??? then there`s no way someone can colonize alot... think I am going back to Eu3 :) well thanks anyway for bother to answer my question :)
Nah the civilization will stay the same, but your capital will lose population with each colonization, and it must have 10 pop. to allow a colony in the first place, which can be quite hard for a tribe.

On that note, isn't it a bit... let's settle on weird that barbarian territories always are so devoid of people? Didn't Gaul have a population on par with Italy by the time Caesar invaded?
 

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It is possible to colonize all empty provinces on the map before the game ends. Personally I think it works fine right now. Places like Scandza or Hibernia were almost unknown and backward during the time period of this game and it would be feel odd if civilization would always spread there during the first 50 years of game.

If you play as tribe and want to colonize, then your best bet is to civilize your capital as fast as possible (Adapt or perish -event helps a lot with that and trading with civilized lands also helps a bit). Also there's always the option to conquer more civilized lands to yourself. Like others said it's only possible to colonize if you have more than 50% civ rating and 10 people in neigboring province.
 

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When I uses those event through cheats how long time will it take and where do I see where it stands how many it already is?

Event will give you 1% increase to your capital's civilization level. And if you cheat if probably don't take very long, however it all debends on your starting level. Those who are nearer the civilized countries have greater civ level at the start than those who are in the middle of nowhere like Suebi or Picts. You can see civ level from province information. Just click your province and at the bottom of the screen you will see stats of your province. Civ level is below the fort level on that list. There's picture of house next to it.

From Iberian tribes Vaccaei and Lusitani are more civilized than Cantabri and British tribes have equal civ level with each other. When you play as tribe civilizing the tribe and reforming to more advanced form of government is nice early challenge (bit like reforming horde or tribal state in EU3), but if you don't like that and if you want to play Iberian game without starting as tribe then you could play as Massilia. They have one province in Southern Gaul and other in Iberia. All you have to do is to cancel tribute to Rome and you can start colonizing yourself as soon as you have destroyed barbarians from neighboring provinces.
 
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Okey, I were thinking about beeing a tribe nation in England, How can I reform the government to an more advanced government and what kind of government can I change it to? The government like rome? like macedonia?
 

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The area the game is focused on is on the Med - The Roman republic, Carthage and the various Greek successor states. In EU 3 terms, everything else is the Cherokee and Creek nations from EU 3. Far away, there only to be conquered by the expanding European states, and by extension not very fun to play. Arguably the map should have been expanded further east and south at the expense of the cold, wet, damp and practically empty European north and west. Your gameplay experience will be vastly superior if you play one of the nations that are designed to be played. A tribal nation in England is not going to be fun to play at all as theres not much around you and not much you can do for a very long time.

Essentially though - reforming governments is done by decision. Meet the conditions and you can promote from a tribal government to a republic or monarchy. The conditions are specific, but in general terms your capital needs a civillisation score of 50 or more, Stability of 1 or more and your ruler needs a finesse score of 8 or more. Theyre stored in the "Conversions" file under Decisions folder.

The trick though is building up 50 civillisation when youre thousands of miles from civillisation. I'm sure its possible, but its uphill all the way.
 

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Okey, I were thinking about beeing a tribe nation in England, How can I reform the government to an more advanced government and what kind of government can I change it to? The government like rome? like macedonia?

All British tribes have military tribe form of government. So, they have two decisions Become Military Republic of Become Despotic Monarchy. Both have same conditions capital must have at least 50% civilization, stability must be +1 and ruler must have finess 8 or higher. Other type of tribes like trade tribe can form different sort of republics or monarchies. All British tribes are coastal so you can trade with more civilized countries to get more civilization and use events to boost up your civ.
 

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Ok, I have now tried as one of the England countries, I have changed to a republic and have 70 civilization and the barbarbian area`s is only at power 1 and I have positive stability... why cant I colonize?
 

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Bah! this was annoying, know any cheat or something witch gets the population higher??? I dont feel like to wait 50 years before I colonize and I want to start at... start date
 

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I believe there is a cheat that is simply population which will give you more population in your capital. I may be wrong.

If you want more population though, what you can do is build an army and march around and destroy barbarians (even if they have a 0% spawning chance they'll still eventually rise up when you leave a small army there). Every barbarian cohort you kill gives you 0.1 Slave population, of which 1/3 (IIRC?) goes to your capital and the rest goes to your other provinces. I've played a couple of brief tribal campaigns now where plundering barbarian lands for slaves has given me enough population to come pretty close to Rome itself. Most of them are slaves, of course, but once you become a republic/monarchy, you'll be able to enact some Slave -> Freedmen laws which will help a lot. Slaves also have the benefit of increasing your force limits, which will allow you to build a bigger army to kill yet more barbarians...
 

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You could do that, but there's a good chance that they will choose to wander off in a different direction, making them harder to chase down. It's probably better to get an army of about 5-10,000 men with a good general (he'll also decrease the supply requirements) and sit them in a province with about 6-10 barbarian strength. Fight the barbarians when they rise up and hunt them down (just don't stray too far from your borders, otherwise you won't get any reinforcements!).