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Those are actually quite interesting points. I guess unless Communist Europe wants to get bombed from Sub-Sahara and USSR from India once the US get jet-strat. bombers we have to fight to get control over these areas. Really interesting look at it, perhaps there should be a major offensive into Africa :D

I've a,ways wondered when the penny dropped that literally every acre of land the enemy controlled was now a national security threat, and wat the guys face looked like when he figured it out. In this timeline, with such nukes being used all the time and with war pretty serious for both sides, nothing short of a large ocean is keeping you safe from nukes (and after missile tech advances, nothing but MAD). Kinda makes you reconsider how nerve racking all those incidents and treaties and stuff must have been for both sides to figure out and agree to. It would have been so easy to misstep and kill everyone.

Here, the situation is even worse. Not only does the SU need to take Africa but it also needs to raoidly expand the navy to match the Americans, because at this point should the Allies lose Africa they could always patrol air craft carrier fleets and launch bombers from there instead. So the complete conquest of the entire old world is just to buy time, a delaying tactic, to allow for communist forces to both developed nukes of their own and have anavy capable of deploying bombers to carry them, and to combat the enemy fleet trying to do the same.
 

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what a roller coaster :D

I wish Turkey got to keep its provinces though :)

I wonder where will we nuke first
 

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what a roller coaster :D

I wish Turkey got to keep its provinces though :)

I wonder where will we nuke first

Thanks :D

They gave me the States by focus, so had to take them. I figure if the USSR win the war Turkey will get them back.

Also to all the readers, sorry for lack of updates. To be honest I have had little motivation due to a great summer and personal stuff. But don't worry, I really want to finish the story, and I have advanced further in-game. I think next update should be at the end of August or beginning og September :)
 

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It's nearly the middle of September...

Yup and now it's October, sorry for that! Things got more busy than anticipated, however the next update will come either this evening (CET) or tomorrow at the latest. After that it should be weekly updates :)
 

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Chapter 58: O, God of Our Land.
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The first shell to hit Iceland.

Far removed from the warm sands and armored thrusts in Egypt the water sloshed upon the shores of Iceland. As winter was slowly fading away so was the nip in the air. However it was not the rooster nor the sun rise that would awake the peaceful people of Iceland. The rain and fog was dense, subsequently hiding the Soviet warships of the Baltic fleet. A few planes could be heard somewhere among the cloud, no doubt the locals believed it to be an allied plane patrolling the air. The reality was far more sinister. From the Soviet battleships seaplanes had taken off to act as artillery observers. The dreaded 16 inch guns of the superheavy battleships opened up all along Iceland - accompanied by grueling fire from lighter warships, with rocket artillery mounted on destroyers being especially devastating, flattening entire areas as the katyushas had done elsewhere in Europe, Africa and Asia alike. The war was now moving across the Atlantic.

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Troops on the shores of Iceland, along with a map. Obviously.

The Soviet strategy was ruthless; every settlement along the coast was to be bombarded from the sea. The locals was not notified. The beaches and hills was to be cleansed for every NATO pillbox, trench, machinegun-nest and entrenched forces. Without air support the Soviet forces had to make a daring sea-assault along the Iceland coast. If they failed the invasion of Iceland would fail. If the invasion of Iceland failed, the eventual invasion of Northern America was at risk, and in turn it enabled grim strategic realities for the Soviets - more on that later. Even while the Soviet warships sprouted out their heavy machine gun fire, auto-cannons and their heavy 16 inch guns, raining shrapnel and death over Iceland, the first three Rifle Divisions was ordered to assault the beaches, attacking an extensive line stretching all over eastern Icleand from Vik to Húsavik. Armored fighting vehicles that was modified for amphibious landed along Iceland with the infantrists disembarking. The men of the 30th, 27th and 60th Rifle Divisions was to be the first to land on Iceland, however they would face little opposition. In fact most of their casualties was claimed by obsolete T-26s, T-34s etc. that was poorly welded and friendly fire. In order to not lose the element of surprise the infantrists was rushed into battle while the Baltic Fleet laid concentrated fire on the landing zones. Disaster struck Iceland in those early morning hours as entire settlements was laid to waste. A local noted they believed the volcanos erupted. However the geysirs that erupted all over the island was a product of industrial warfare and not nature. The relative ease of the landing of the 30th, 27th and 60th, however, was not to last.

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The slow naval advance toward the Denmark strait.


The invasion of Iceland, or more accurately its timing, was not that obvious for NATO. The powerful Baltic Fleet was mostly confined to English Channel and the seas surrounding Britain, patrolling the seas in order to deter any NATO "reclamation" or "homecoming". The Baltic Fleet was believed to be committed to Britian and for defensive purposes. Indeed the US had made one last attempt of a raid to test the terrifying fleet lead on by the infamous superheavy battleships as far back as January. The raid was a disaster for the Americans, resulting in the loss of one battlecruiser, one battleship and nine heavy cruisers. The lone aircraft carrier of the task force, USS Ranger, barely managed to slip away. However the Baltic Fleet made no attempt to strike into the north or to the Western Approaches as the German surface raiders did all those years prior. On the 18th of March, a mere week prior to the Soviet assault on Iceland, the White Sea Fleet suffered a defeat and was forced to retreat. US warships detected movement by the small fleet and anticipated its trajectory. It was, correctly, assumed it headed toward the Denmark Strait (sea between Iceland and Greenland) and managed to ambush it in the Norwegian Sea. Confronted by a carrier task force the Russo-French fleet was dealt a blow and forced to retreat. The after action review stated that the US detatchment in the area numbered "at least four (4) aircraft carriers". The Americans knowing the Soviets having no aircraft carriers to speak off in their modest, yet forceful, navy and air cover in the area was confident that their display of force would dissuade any Pact naval expedition in the area. In addition they were confident that their vast naval reserves alone, operating under the doctrine of fleet in being, would scare the Soviets. Their navy, despite being formidable in firepower, was limited and it could not be wasted away in a single battle. While they would inflict losses on the US Navy, in the end they could not afford to risk their navy, as that would mean they would risk a blockade or an invasion. However the Americans underestimated the "cult of aggression" fostered by Soviet planners, commanders and only made worse by Trotsky and the Soviet ideologues who wanted nothing more than a world revolution. Afterall the "Permament Revolution" dictated that, in quite the apocalyptic fashion, that the communist and socialist movements had to be in a constant war against the imperialists and capitalists, lest their revolution and internationalism be couped and destroyed by its enemies. Pact intelligence sevices and reconnaissance reported that the US detachment that defeated the French and Soviet fleet retreated back to its homeports. On the 23rd of March 1946 the Baltic Fleet and the 2nd Baltic Front was ordered to steam toward Iceland and Greenland and "obliterate any enemy of the revolution and the working class".



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A bomber of the 509th Composite Group - responsible of the atomic bombings of the USSR.

While STAVKA and Vlasov (commander of the 2nd Baltic Front and one of the early anti-Stalin insurgents) had planned and prepared for the invasion of Iceland and Greenland since the fall of Denmark the actual order to execute the invasion was not called up until March. STAVKA considered the invasion of these isles as both risky and secondary to the greater operations in Europe, the Levant, Africa and an eventual invasion of India. To invade Iceland and Greenland in March was an undertaking that was in itself foolish. The Russians knew how severe the northern winters could be, and that spring months not necessary meant an end to the winter weather. No one, it is said, can beat General Winter. And despite the hardship of the Soviet people were embodied in the ice cream (in actuality more like snow with flavor) lines in the middle of winter, even the proud Red Army had to face the harsh realities of winter warfare. An invasion of both Greenland and Iceland would quite naturally alarm USA and Canada to an imminent PACT invasion and would certainly result in NATO reinforcements to these islands. Moreover, as mentioned earlier, the US Navy was indeed superior to the Red Fleet. STAVKA feared a prolonged battle in Iceland and Greenland, with the Soviet forces suffering from the winter, a sizable foe, and a potential blockade of the Soviet troops there would result in a defeat and twarth any future PACT expedition over the Atlantic. Moreover they were concerned that such an invasion would divert much needed resources in what they considered more impotant theaters of war. Namely the conquest of Africa and India, along with reinforcement of the Far East. Africa and India was considered their soft underbelly for a number of reason. India held large contigents of American and Commonwealth troops and especially Indian troops - along with various volunteered refugees from the Communist controlled nations and anti-communist volunteers of different persuasions and nationalities. Africa and India in turn threatened the Soviet oil supplies (that was much needed to finally create an "Ocean Going Navy" capable of taking on the USA) they had secured during Southern Thrust, but more importantly the many buffer states south of the USSR. From India and Africa, NATO could very well take out these oil supplies and advance into Kazaksthan and the Caucasus, depriving the Soviet Union of all of its oil - or strike into newly secured Europe. But perhaps more important, air bases in Africa and India posed a grave threat to not only the Soviet Union, but the people of the Internationale and the Paris PACT as a whole. The US commanders had proven themself to not put restraint on their usage of nuclear weapons. The horrors and memories of Kiev, Odessa, Sevastopol, Madrid, Valencia and Barcelona loomed over not only the Red Armies, but the people living in the Communist world. From Africa and India the Americans could station long range bombers and evolve their systematic bombing they developed against Germany, Italy and Japan to a whole new level. To make the Communist nations choose between surrender or utter extinction. Moreover the Americans, according to the NKGB, got hand of their uranium from Congo and South Africa. Depriving America from these resource rich areas would also be a major blow to them.

Then there was the case of the Far East. As known the Soviet Far East armies faced utter destruction during the last months of WW2, before the Fronts that brought down Hitler and Mussolini was sent to the Far East. Ever since the Far East and Transbaikal Fronts had been in a state of a slow rebuild. However the western Fronts was prioritized due to their role of "liberating" western Europe from capitalism and imperialism. The Far East was docile. Japan was chastized by the Allies, and Trotsky had made explicit orders for Communist China to not seek to unite all of China. As of yet. In direct violation to the Paris Treaties Japan was remilitarizing itself and non-Communist China once more fell into the orb of Japan, poised to end communist rule in northern China. This rearming was supported by, and even actively pursued, USA. A strong Japan and non commie China, they reasoned, would be a strong buffer in the Far East, preventing an eastern expansion. The Soviet Union saw it differently. Ideological reasons aside (such as spreading communism, socialism and internationalism to all of Asia, preventing another Imperial Japan) they saw a rearmed Japan as a potential base of operations for NATO. Both for nuclear bombers, but also outright invasion. By 1946 the general view of STAVKA was that the Red Army had to consolidate their gains in Europe, spread out in Africa and India, and strengthen their position in the Far East. An invasion of Greenland and Iceland was simply not beneficial if meant these theaters of war had to be deprioritized or even cannibalized for an invasion of the icy northern islands. Trotsky, however, had a different idea.

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US troops conducting exercises in Iceland. Such reports alarmed the Soviet authorities.

Trotsky wanted to end the "capitalist abomination in the west once and for all. However his ideological arguments soon got reinforced by strategic concerns. Soviet agents, western inflitrators, codebreakers and recon elements noted that American forces was building up in Iceland. Shipping activity increased, with reports ticking in on American and exiled-British garrison units and American and Canadian engineer units - along with several "class enemies" from Britain that sought refugee in Iceland and then Canada and US. They could not determine the precise nature of the NATO build up there, but one didn't need much of a fantasy to discern the events. Vlasov first presented his findings to his immediate superiors, however he was soon rebuffed. The staffers had put too much prestige in defying Trotsky's vision of going over the ocean to admit failure (Stalinist treatment of failures was still very much prevalent in Soviet civic and military society), however he soon managed to present his findings and suggestion to Trotsky in person. Soon other central military figures such as Tukhachevsky and Rokossovsky agreed on the interpertation of events. NATO was gearing up for battle. Either to create air bases for the bombardment of northern Europe or even outright invasion of Britain or Scandinavia, the latter being a threat to the motherland herself. If USA stationed sufficient amount of ground troops, air wings and naval squadrons the Red Army and Fleet could never cross the Atlantic and take on the American beast. They had to act, and now. The Baltic Fleet was ordered to enter the Denmark Strait with little to no preparation. The commander of the superheavy Soviet Belarus noted "we're stumbling into the darkness. With no clue whatsoever to what we will face and no idea about any outcome". The invasion of Iceland and Greenland, that was supposed to happen well after the conquest of Africa and India, was now underway. It marked a point of no return.

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Scenes from the various engagements of the invasion.


Back to the actual fighting at hand. As mentioned earlier the 30th, 27th and 60th Rifle Divisions attacked the settlements along eastern and north-eastern Iceland early in the morning of the 25th of March. They met little resistance and repelled a poorly led Danish (in exile) counterattack at noon that very day. The 65th, 41st, 8th "Minsk", 81st and 2nd Rifle Divisions and the 2nd Light-Tank Brigade was tasked with coming in full force from Hvammstangi in the north-west and link up with the first invasion force in Húsavik. From there they could strike to the west and south taking the capital of Iceland. However the Soviet forces here met stiff resistance as soon as they landed. Despite intense bombardment from sea, the defenders were well prepared this time. Vlasov made the mistake of committing the light-tank brigade right away in the battle, hoping they would exploit the holes made by the infantrists. But this was not to be. Instead the tanks got holed up on the shores, having a difficult time finding places to land and assault their enemy. Meanwhile the infantry came under heavy fire, with the defenders taking up machine gun, flak and anti-tank positions inland rather than at the coast line as they did with the first invasion force. The bombardment of the Soviet warships was also this time of little value. It took time to coordinate firesupport from the battleships and the American commander ordered the troops to "hug" the Soviet invaders as to prevent naval firesupport. The progress was slow for the Soviets and they struggled to advance in the hilly and snowy terrain under stiff resistance. The naval landing also prevented any real artillery and heavy fire support, a situation only made worse when the majority of the warships that provided firesupport was recalled to assist the assault on Reykjavik. The assault, however, were not pressed back to the seas, mostly due to the 30th, 27th and 60th, who landed three days earlier, assisted their comrades on the 29th. By 22:15 on the 30th the defenders retreated orderly back to Reykjavik. As Reykjavik had the only port capable of supporting a military force it was decided the Icelandic capital was of greater value. The other Soviet forces would succumb to lack of supplies if Reykjavik were held. The cost of taking northern Iceland was very tall. The naval assault costed the Soviets over 4000 casualties, while the defenders lost some 45 men.

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Various scenes from the naval assault on Reykjavik.


In the west the Soviets faced united opposition from Danes, British and American soldiers alike. The attack on Reykjavik turned southward in the early stages of the battle. In the many fjords north of Reykjavik the landing crafts was rapidly taken down by well emplaced cannons, while the infantrists struggled to gain much of a foothold on the stony and frozen beacheads of Iceland. In the end it was only the attack on the city itself that was in effect, and despite the Icelandic capital coming under heavy fire the defenders remained, mostly striking down with hidden machine gun and artillery positions creating effective killing zones. The trump card of the Soviets to take out Reykjavik was their formidable T-44 tanks an their heavy Trotsky tanks. However these tanks were of little value as they could not be landed. An American soldier noted that "they came at us, wave after wave under razing machine gun fire. We mowed them down, but they kept on coming, so we mowed them down again". The Soviets managed to enter the streets of Reykjavik, but without any real fire support, worn out troops and no means of supplies nor reinforcements the attacks was soon called off. The shorelines of western Iceland and the bombed out streets of Reykjavik had claimed nearly 4000 Soviet men and 58 tanks, at the cost of 50 valiant NATO defenders. The naval assault of Reykjavik was lost, NATO won the day.

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We will never give up!


With the failure to take Reykjavik the fears of STAVKA turned true. Soviets forces was trapped on Iceland, cut off from supplies and with no means to retreat. If the situation persisted for much longer then the 2nd Baltic Front would lose seven Rifle Divisions - nearly 100.000 men. Desperate the three Army commanders ordered an attack on Reykjavik from the east. This failed. Bogged down in the harsh weather and mountainous and many fjords the attack soon fizzled out as it grinded to a halt, despite promising results during the first hours of the assault. Germany also landed two brigades in Reykjavik, however they were soon repelled aswell. NATO forces soon went on the offensive, however as with the Soviet assault it made little gains. The two opposing sides attacked eachother back and forth, and the battle of Reykjavik did not truly end before the 9th of May, at terrible Soviet costs, reaching now over 10.000 casualties for a relatively minor city. The Soviet forces were instead ordered to halt and dig in. As they were low on supplies makeshift ports were created by the engineers on Iceland and at home, hoping to create a port that could substain some supplies before another, renewed, NATO offensive.*

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Yet one another victory claimed by the Baltic Fleet. One of the many convoy interceptions.**


The Americans based most of their strategy of the defense of Iceland and Greenland under the assumption that the Soviet Union did not dare to sacrifice their Baltic Fleet. Instead it was the Americans who did not dare to send out their fleets. After sending a small raider task force, they were confronted by the superheavy battleships. The raiders quickly broke off losing one destroyer. The US Navy concluded that they did not dare to send off their aircraft carriers and battleships against the infamous fleet. Inadvertently this little raid, bordering recon, aided the NATO troops on Iceland as it distracted the warships from their firesupport role. Meanwhile the Soviet submarine arm had created an effective blockade of Iceland. Their orders was to not let a single ship enter or leave Reykjavik as they waited outside in a blockade, utilizing wolfpack tactics, while the Baltic Fleet by its mere presence somehwere in the frozen seas scared away any and all attempts of escort services. Troops and supplies, and people and materials not associated with the ongoing war, going both in and out of Iceland was sunk on a massive scale. Several battered US Regiments were evacuated to be replaced by incoming regiments. None of them would ever see land again, but were instead doomed to the rock bottom.

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So our winning streak is not over.. yet.

Further to the west the Soviets successfully managed to land in Greenland and gain control over most of the massive island by the start of April. Only one understrength remnant unit of the once mighty Royal Army of the British Empire remained. The Soviets took it with ease, and the soldiers who were sent to Greenland were mostly Siberian units and Mongolian volunteers. The use of these troops so close to North America made for various highly racist propaganda measures in Canada and USA warning its populace not only of the Red Hydra, but that the wicked Bolsheviks employed Asiatic and Hun hordes to ruin western civilization. Anyhow, Greenland along with its vital was captured. Soviet engineers was soon rushed in to expand the existing ports, create new ones and create airfields. No doubt the Soviets hoped to create a base of operations that could reach into Canada and perhaps even visit Uncle Sam.. Speaking of Uncle Sam, Field Marshal Vlasov was surprised, and relieved, that the American nations did not mount an immediate counterattack or block their supply lines with their quite impressive navy. Vlasov and his staff contemplated on if the Americans were massing for a major assault or if they truly believed Greenland was lost and did not dare to send in their, by far superior, US Navy. Whatever the case, the Soviets enjoyed full control of Greenland, with their only casualties being claimed by accidents, liqour or harsh weather.

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Summer time tend to help.

The long waited, and dreaded, NATO counterattack came on the 11th of May. After just a few hours of battle the understrength Soviet Rifle Divisions in the north was beaten back to southern and north-eastern Iceland. Many soldiers later confessed in secrecy that they thanked God that the NATO troops stalled their advance. Despite several probing attacks into southern Iceland that obstructed the creation of their port, American, Danish and Icelandic troops did not push all the way to end the Soviet threat. Instead the Soviets were allowed to create their port, which not only enabled new supplies, but most important the entire originally intended invasion force. Most notably among them the light and heavy tank brigades and a mechanized corps. The NATO troops in the region was infantry based units, and while they had anti-tank guns, they had no armor of their own or tank destroyers. Moreover the Soviet submarine and surface blockade made its toll as the NATO troops could not get in fresh supplies, and were under daily bombardment from the Baltic Fleet. Moreover the Soviets started to again go on the offensive by the end of May as the snow cleared away as the sun shined all the more brighter. The local population was also tired of the war, some falling for Soviet propaganda (claiming they would be liberated from American occupation and Danish colonial rule) and some simply wanting the hardship to be over. Remember that since March the various settlements of Iceland (the majority being along the coast) had been bombed to rubble by either sea or fighting on land, while their economy was ruined due to the blockade wrecking their fishing and whaling industries. The war had in short ruined their economy, and those who tried to flee the sea way was sunk by submarines. The Icelandic society as a whole had collapsed, and most became apathic and simply welcomed an end to the hostilities. And they soon came as Trotsky tanks smashed their way through NATO defenses following behind T-44 spearheads.

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Huzzah.

Then on the 14th of June the invasion of Iceland and Greenland had come to an end. It took the Red Army nearly three months to take these sparsely populated islands. They came close to defeat, but their victory was in the end ensured. One can but wonder how different the war would play out if the Soviets were defeated here, or if NATO finished their build up preventing a Soviet invasion. Nevertheless the gamble paid off, now it was a matter of consolidating their positions and preventing a NATO counterattack. The infrastructure of these nations were expanded to faciliate for the 2nd Baltic Front, the ports were expanded and airports were created. The airports were created with the hope that they could house bombers, bombers that could reach Canada and perhaps even America, to deliver a new weapon that had just been constructed and tested by Soviet and German scientists. A weapon that only one other nation had ever used before, which led to untold suffering in the Soviet Union and Iberia. A new sinister age had begun..


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*Started to construct ports in the provinces I controlled in Iceland. When there was only one province left I was concerned the last port wouldn't finish as construction halted when they attacked me. Fortunately the AI wasn't aggressive enough to batter my troops until they were overrun.

**The first convoy raid. The US lost 6-14 convoys almost daily there for the rest of the campaign.
 
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I pity the poor soldiers fighting up there.
 

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The first shell to hit Iceland.

Forgot about iceland. So we're going on a jaunt through the northerbmost regions to get to america then. Going to be an interesting battle for canada.

Elsewhere, the russians seems to awaken to the idea that there will awlays be a threat of annhilation where ever there are american airbases in the old world. If the communists can get china and india secured, the wolrd is basically theirs. Nothing the amerivans will be able to do will stop their domination across most of the planet. Their navy and a bombs mogjt keep the Americas hemsevles safe for now but then thw age of missles and aircraft should do in even that.
 

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I pity the poor soldiers fighting up there.

While it may not be so cataclysmic as the previous battles, I wouldn't like to be in their situation. At the very least I hope the hellish nature of Greenland and Iceland will prevent any US/Canadian invasion in the future.

Forgot about iceland. So we're going on a jaunt through the northerbmost regions to get to america then. Going to be an interesting battle for canada.

Elsewhere, the russians seems to awaken to the idea that there will awlays be a threat of annhilation where ever there are american airbases in the old world. If the communists can get china and india secured, the wolrd is basically theirs. Nothing the amerivans will be able to do will stop their domination across most of the planet. Their navy and a bombs mogjt keep the Americas hemsevles safe for now but then thw age of missles and aircraft should do in even that.

If you think that going to war is a pleasure ;) Will be interesting to see if the battle of Canada can be pulled of at all, or if we need something even more.. ambitious to reach to the heart of capitalism.

Fortunately as of now the Americans haven't deployed any more nukes, I think.. And Europe have now basically been turned into an air fort with various fighters, heavy fighters and rocket interceptors. But I suppose American industrial capacity will match Europe and USSR, especially now that South America are slowly falling to NATO, more on that later. But yes if USSR manage to secure Africa and Asia, but fail at getting to US I suppose it will be a cold war or an atomic one. So either North America will be taken out, or we get a major landwar in Asia or Africa or it ends in a "draw" with the commies controlling all of the old world and the democrats/capitalists the new world.

Next Stop: Canada!

Hopefully indeed! However with the hard fighting over just Greenland and Iceland, which is somewhat close to communist controlled nations, I dread how hard the fight must be right in the US backyard, moreover the nature is their also not favoring large scale offensives and troop concentration and they may cut off my naval lines alltogether! :confused:
 

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While it may not be so cataclysmic as the previous battles, I wouldn't like to be in their situation. At the very least I hope the hellish nature of Greenland and Iceland will prevent any US/Canadian invasion in the future.



If you think that going to war is a pleasure ;) Will be interesting to see if the battle of Canada can be pulled of at all, or if we need something even more.. ambitious to reach to the heart of capitalism.

Fortunately as of now the Americans haven't deployed any more nukes, I think.. And Europe have now basically been turned into an air fort with various fighters, heavy fighters and rocket interceptors. But I suppose American industrial capacity will match Europe and USSR, especially now that South America are slowly falling to NATO, more on that later. But yes if USSR manage to secure Africa and Asia, but fail at getting to US I suppose it will be a cold war or an atomic one. So either North America will be taken out, or we get a major landwar in Asia or Africa or it ends in a "draw" with the commies controlling all of the old world and the democrats/capitalists the new world.



Hopefully indeed! However with the hard fighting over just Greenland and Iceland, which is somewhat close to communist controlled nations, I dread how hard the fight must be right in the US backyard, moreover the nature is their also not favoring large scale offensives and troop concentration and they may cut off my naval lines alltogether! :confused:
maybe add in alaska as a second vector of attack? with some NAV bombers stationed in the far northeast the invasion force can be protected from the huge capitalist fleets
 

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maybe add in alaska as a second vector of attack? with some NAV bombers stationed in the far northeast the invasion force can be protected from the huge capitalist fleets

Was going to suggest. Supplies would be a bitch but...
 

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Was going to suggest. Supplies would be a bitch but...
We often disagree, sometimes agree but have a nice harmony between us :D

NAVs can protect the convoys as well I guess? I wonder where is the closest airbase. In fact, I have half a mind to propose a paratrooper landing if air superiority can be had.
 

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We often disagree, sometimes agree but have a nice harmony between us :D

NAVs can protect the convoys as well I guess? I wonder where is the closest airbase. In fact, I have half a mind to propose a paratrooper landing if air superiority can be had.

We're military advisors and we're good at our jobs. We either have to disagree and try to tear apart everything brought to the table to ensure only the best gets through, or both agree when a really good idea comes along. Less important for this game cos basically soviet russia has already won, it's just a question of how. But turkey hangs in the balance and has limited resources.
 

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maybe add in alaska as a second vector of attack? with some NAV bombers stationed in the far northeast the invasion force can be protected from the huge capitalist fleets

Was going to suggest. Supplies would be a bitch but...

We often disagree, sometimes agree but have a nice harmony between us :D

NAVs can protect the convoys as well I guess? I wonder where is the closest airbase. In fact, I have half a mind to propose a paratrooper landing if air superiority can be had.

We're military advisors and we're good at our jobs. We either have to disagree and try to tear apart everything brought to the table to ensure only the best gets through, or both agree when a really good idea comes along. Less important for this game cos basically soviet russia has already won, it's just a question of how. But turkey hangs in the balance and has limited resources.

Opening up a new front in Alaska would be something, but a you both point out it's the issue of supplies. But when I think of it, it won't be much better in norhtern Canada, at least Alaska can be a good diversion. However The US have a major fleet presence in the Pacific and so forth, so actually crossing might be difficult. At the very least a lightning strike into Alaska and then move atomic bombers over there might be the breaking point for the US.

It will be interesting anyway! And it's always nice to have some military advisors ;)

Also the war is coming to a certain standstill now as both sides are kinda exhausted and need to rebuild, there will be a few naval engagements (that will be covered), but the next updates will be more on updates on UK itself, the "Empire", USA, South America and the Communist nations to add up some "lore" before all hell break lose again.
 

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Opening up a new front in Alaska would be something, but a you both point out it's the issue of supplies. But when I think of it, it won't be much better in norhtern Canada, at least Alaska can be a good diversion. However The US have a major fleet presence in the Pacific and so forth, so actually crossing might be difficult. At the very least a lightning strike into Alaska and then move atomic bombers over there might be the breaking point for the US.

It will be interesting anyway! And it's always nice to have some military advisors ;)

Also the war is coming to a certain standstill now as both sides are kinda exhausted and need to rebuild, there will be a few naval engagements (that will be covered), but the next updates will be more on updates on UK itself, the "Empire", USA, South America and the Communist nations to add up some "lore" before all hell break lose again.


Do you know what? Now that i think about it, siberia is going to need some better infrastructure and tons of troops moving rhrough it anyway. The south eastern asian campaign esepcially is going to demand it as well as securing china. You cant go through the pacific, as you said. So what would have to be put in place gor a long extended camapign in the east could in the short term facilitate a lightning fast test run on alaska as well.
 

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Do you know what? Now that i think about it, siberia is going to need some better infrastructure and tons of troops moving rhrough it anyway. The south eastern asian campaign esepcially is going to demand it as well as securing china. You cant go through the pacific, as you said. So what would have to be put in place gor a long extended camapign in the east could in the short term facilitate a lightning fast test run on alaska as well.
with some wings of NAV bombers for safe passage, I might add
 

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Do you know what? Now that i think about it, siberia is going to need some better infrastructure and tons of troops moving rhrough it anyway. The south eastern asian campaign esepcially is going to demand it as well as securing china. You cant go through the pacific, as you said. So what would have to be put in place gor a long extended camapign in the east could in the short term facilitate a lightning fast test run on alaska as well.

with some wings of NAV bombers for safe passage, I might add

Due to the Japanese offensive into Siberia the areas north of Vladivostok etc. is actually having decent amounts of infrastructure (7/10) due to preparing for the liberation of Vladivostok etc. Vladivostok and the areas around there have around 3-4/10 infrastructure, so they need investments. Now the airbases also need quite the investments in order to prepare for an areal assault.

If we are to cross into Alaska, which would be a nice diversion/tie up US troops, we need to shift a lot of production toward naval bombers and heavy fighters, but we to do that if we are to invade from Greenland anyways. The next steps are basically to build infrastructure, ports, airports and radars in Greenland and the Russian far east. Hopefully Alaska have light defenses, that means we don't need that big of a strike force to take on Alaska and western Canada, dig in and tie up US and Canadian forces for the big battles ahead. Let them be in eastern North-America, Africa or India. Exciting times ahead ;)

And a small spoiler, there is a major increase of US convoys sailing to Korea (most of them being sunk) and some US Naval incursions in the area. The US might be bulding up for an offensive or defense in that region..
 

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Stiff resistance by the brave Icelandic and Greenlander people against Sovoet aggression. :D
 

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Stiff resistance by the brave Icelandic and Greenlander people against Sovoet aggression. :D

Aggression? You surely mean liberation from Danish and American imperialism! :rolleyes: