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I can still break it
Aladar I´d like clarification on this one. Can a sub break a NAP signed by a perm? I sure hope not.
What if the perm signed the deal with you but told the sub that he can break the deal eventually?
If the perm tells the sub there is a nap, the sub must follow those instructions.
I don´t believe you.
Let´s see what Golden Delicius has to say about this. I doubt he would have you break a nap just like that.
1. Any NAP agreement signed for a duration exceeding 20 years is null for whatever portion extends beyond the 20 year period, meaning that either side can declare it invalid past that point without taint to their honor. This does not prevent from regularly renewing NAP agreements, but at no given time can anybody be sure of the security of a border for decades and decades or even centuries, as is often the case in games.
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A NAP can be broken...even with sub. But it has loss of honour if it's done into the 20 years period.
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A NAP can be broken...even with sub. But it has loss of honour if it's done into the 20 years period.
not saying if he did or did not. What he said was: what if he did?
Doesn't mean he must keep at peace during the session. He has to follow the instructions between Golden and CG. Not you and Golden.
Sorry for not being around guys but I've had a turbulent week to say the least.
I've started working at DHL, starting at 5 am and this whole week I've been getting used to getting up at 4 am instead of 1 pm, if you know what I mean. Needless to say I've been sleeping most of the time this last week, but I'm sure I can carry on as a perm, I've just gotta get used to my new sleeping arrangements.
I've started working at DHL, starting at 5 am and this whole week I've been getting used to getting up at 4 am instead of 1 pm, if you know what I mean.
Needless to say I've been sleeping most of the time this last week, but I'm sure I can carry on as a perm, I've just gotta get used to my new sleeping arrangements.
That is a quite ridiculous assumption. The sub is the one who plays the nation. It is up to the PERM to choose a sub which he trusts. If the sub misbehaves, the perm is free to never allow him to sub that perm's naiton again. The other perms can't dictate what terms the sub must or must not follow, if these dictations go beyond the rules. The perm might tell the sub "don't DOW nation X" and the sub will follow this to the best of his abilities and/or decisions. But he can go against the perms instructions should he wish.
Obviously he can´t. Just read Aladar´s post. He´s the GM. You´re not even a perm in this campaign.
Aladar said:
That is, of course, correct. And I never said otherwise.
However, should an instance occur where a sub breaks a nap I will require proper documentation that this is the perm´s wish. Otherwise I´ll consider this a rule breach.
I wouldn't go this far. Just a confirmation from the perm he told the sub it was ok to break the nap would be enough for me.
why are you so afraid ampo? Don't trust your military skills enough to beat me?
Spain wont be alone against your evil acts of conquest!
why are you so afraid ampo? Don't trust your military skills enough to beat me?
I don´t trust you to abide by even the most basic etiquettes of social interaction.
I don´t want any dealings with you. And I expect nothing of you. All I want is for you to follow the instructions of the Austrian perm (!) to the letter.
Since I have doubts you will do so of your own free will I´m dealing with this issue here.
Moreover, if you would simply refrain from talking to me, whatsoever, I´d be most obliged.
I don't think Aladar's quote is that clear. He says that if there is a NAP, the sub must respect that. After the sub has respected and seen that there is a NAP, the NAP is still just a NAP. I personally wouldn't like to play a game where NAPs are unbreakable, in any form.
And I know I'm no perm in this game. But this is an open forum and I still have the right to express my opinion
Good lord, what did I ever do to you apart invading your england the other game! geez