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The Knights controls almost the entire modern-day Turkey, adn the Albanians most of the balkans... Too bad I'm allied with the Turks, time to kicks ome righteous butt in the name of the True Faith!
 

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Originally posted by Arilou
The Knights controls almost the entire modern-day Turkey, adn the Albanians most of the balkans... Too bad I'm allied with the Turks, time to kicks ome righteous butt in the name of the True Faith!

Hehe, well it is not that uncommon.;) Seeing that they made the Turks practically helpless in the game...:(
 

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Re: Re: LOL, the Knights and Albanians are killing the ottomans!

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Hehe, well it is not that uncommon.;) Seeing that they made the Turks practically helpless in the game...:(
I agree. The Ottomans are far too weak, and never ever reach even a fraction of their RL glory.:(
 

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I have seen the knights often somehow own hughe parts of Anatolia. More often than I saw a big Ottoman Empire forming :( In my Scottish AAR game most of the ottoman Empire is partitioned between Denmark, Venice, Portugal and a few more... ;)
 

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What do you guys think they specifically did wrong with The Ottomans. I know they gave them a heck of a lot of CB sheilds, so theoretically they should try to take the Balkans, but they don't. Do they have too many negative events the AI can't handle?
 

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Originally posted by Oleg
Denmark?? I´ve seen them take provs around that area, especially Jedisan, quite a number of times..

Maybe sumtin should be changed?

I strongly think so, Anatolia's provinces, are too poor too....:(
 

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Originally posted by Josephus I
What do you guys think they specifically did wrong with The Ottomans. I know they gave them a heck of a lot of CB sheilds, so theoretically they should try to take the Balkans, but they don't. Do they have too many negative events the AI can't handle?

I don't think too many negative events, but too less positive ones, and their tech group...:(
 

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Re: Re: Re: LOL, the Knights and Albanians are killing the ottomans!

Originally posted by Oleg

I agree. The Ottomans are far too weak, and never ever reach even a fraction of their RL glory.:(

...it would help a lot if they made the two army/navel reforms pull in the same direction....its ok for a human to go naval but an ai controlled ottoman would just go nowhere being a naval nation.
 

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Re: Re: Re: Re: LOL, the Knights and Albanians are killing the ottomans!

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...it would help a lot if they made the two army/navel reforms pull in the same direction....its ok for a human to go naval but an ai controlled ottoman would just go nowhere being a naval nation.
I dunno. It´s a what-if type of thing, why remove the what-if?;)
 

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In the AGC, MKJ has made a lot of changes, but the Ottomans are still too weak. We are experimenting with different tax values, but we do not want them to be as rich as France for example. In the early stages of the game there are no bad events for the Ottomans. Just good events. MKJ's giving out of CB shields in stages has helped a bit.
 

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: LOL, the Knights and Albanians are killing the ottomans!

Originally posted by Oleg

I dunno. It´s a what-if type of thing, why remove the what-if?;)

but the problem is that the historical choices in the two options are LAND for the first and NAVAL for the second...thus the DP changes even out where the the ottomans really would do much better if it had two LAND reforms thus effectively gaining +2 land and +2 shock....or just one LAND reform and one BOTH LAND AND NAVAL....thus ensuring the ottomans +1 land and +1 shock....ofcause Im purely arguing this because I see this as being one very easy fix to "the ottomans underperform" problem....
 

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If I don’t play as a nearby country, the Ottomans usually end up taking most of modern Turkey, the balkans, and much of Hungary, among other things.
 

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I don't know, I usually see them take Anatolia, the Balkans, most of Egypt, and most of the stuff in between Egypt and Anatolia. Sometimes good portions of Russia. Of course, I'm playing EEP...that might make a difference...
 

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I mostly end up with strong ottomans except in my current game as Lithuania where I am competing with them.
The mamluks own most of the middle east, I have the balkans and Russia has took Crimea.
My bb points rocketed from honourable to very bad for taking the balkans and I've been smashed in bb wars....