Loading of savegames cause crash to desktop

[Earnie]

Here's the breakdown of my problem:

- Crusader Kings 2 via Steam (it's up to date => version ?)
- every time I open a savegame => crash to desktop
- it worked before, now it doesn't anymore
- game is freshly installed (yesterday)
- I used the CKII_UI_Font_Mod
- but: starting CK 2 without the mod and loading these savegames => same result (crash)

How do I fix this ? The game is basically unplayable now. What if start a new game and it happens again ? I don't want to loose those hours...

 

[Trash_Boat]

I've been having this same issue, I wanted to ask about this also. I don't have mods installed.

 

[AndrewT]

What if you create the save games without any mods active, does that go OK?

Does it matter whether the save is local or to the cloud?

Please post a dxdiag.txt (you can delete everything after the end of the "Sound devices" section for brevity) and your Documents/CK2/settings.txt. From your Documents/Paradox/CK2/logs/ directory, post system.log . What checksum do you see a/ in the launcher and b/ in the main game menu?

 

[Earnie]

This works fine with and without mod:
Setting up a brand new game => saving => Resign (i don't know how it's called since I play the german version) => loading the save game

Version is 2.3
checksum loader = checksum main game menu = BTOF

Here's the files

settings.txt

gui=
{
language=l_german
has_set_language=yes
}
graphics=
{
size=
{
x=1680
y=1050
}

refreshRate=59
fullScreen=yes
borderless=no
shadows=no
shadowSize=2048
multi_sampling=0
anisotropic_filtering=0
gamma=50.000000
}
sound_fx_volume=100.000000
music_volume=100.000000
scroll_speed=50.000000
camera_rotation_speed=50.000000
zoom_speed=50.000000
mouse_speed=50.000000
master_volume=0.000000
ambient_volume=50.000000
mapRenderingOptions=
{
draw_terrain=yes
draw_water=yes
draw_borders=yes
draw_trees=yes
draw_rivers=yes
draw_postfx=yes
draw_sky=yes
draw_bloom=no
draw_tooltips=yes
draw_hires_terrain=no
draw_citysprawl=yes
}
camera_speed=50.000000
camera_tilt=100.000000
centered_zoom_in=yes
lastplayer=""
lasthost=""
serveradress="diplomacy.valkyrienet.com"
autosave="YEARLY"
difficulty="NORMAL"
outliner=
{
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 9 13 }
outliner_open=no
windowmovetime=0.200000
disable_wikipedia_links=no
nudge_allowed=no
dont_track_data=no
has_made_data_tracking_choice=yes
has_disabled_welcome_screen=no
hints=yes
ironman=no
mp_max_day_lead=7
compress_autosaves=no
disabled_alerts=
{
25 }
autosaves_to_keep=0
last_mods=
{
mod/CKII_UI_Font_Mod.mod }
low_res_textures=no
force_pow2_textures=no
custom_mapmodes=
{
2 }
last_used_id="76561197980054889"

dxdiag.txt (shortened)

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System Information
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Time of this report: 1/2/2015, 10:05:15
Machine name: ADMIN-PC
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.140303-2144)
Language: German (Regional Setting: German)
System Manufacturer: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
System Model: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
BIOS: BIOS Date: 07/03/13 21:25:03 Ver: 04.06.05
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4670K CPU @ 3.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.4GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 8122MB RAM
Page File: 2358MB used, 13884MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
------------
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Sound Tab 3: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
--------------------
Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Monitor Id: AOC2369
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Output Type: HDMI
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Driver File Version: 9.18.0013.3523 (English)
Driver Version: 9.18.13.3523
DDI Version: 11
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 3/4/2014 15:35:23, 17755424 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
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[AndrewT]

This works fine with and without mod:
Setting up a brand new game => saving => Resign (i don't know how it's called since I play the german version) => loading the save game

OK then, what is it exactly that does not work? Because I thought that's what you were referring to. Do you mean loading from the Save Games tab menu (Single menu, Custom game, Load Game, Load sequence) instead of the initial main game menu, something like that?

Here's a newer video driver for you
http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/80913

 

[Earnie]

Thanks for the driver link !

I want to play the game I started a few days ago, not start a new game. But I can't do that because the old savegames won't load. Even if I start a new game, I will probably have the same problem in a few days, which is of course really frustrating.

Savegames I can't load:
the last one and the one before that

Savegames I can load:
Every save game which is older (from my current game + from the game before that)
Every new save game I create (but will new save games also start to be broken at one point ?)

This doesn't make sense to me :sad:

 

[AndrewT]

In your OP you said

- every time I open a savegame => crash to desktop

So that's not actually the case? There are just two particular saves that won't load?

It seems likely that some game bug has made those games unplayable. I'm aware of a couple of crash bugs caused by particular actions in the game (you can see them in Bug Reports forum no doubt) but not ones embedded in the saves.

Two choices: you can ask for help over in User Mods forum to see if they can see what problem those files have, or paste in here a link to those games and if I can duplicate the issue I can log a bug report myself.

 

[Earnie]

I didn't know that some saves would load when I started the thread. It seemed that every save was ok until some point in the game when every save after that became corrupted. But now I'm not sure anymore and I can't really tell which save game files are older since some of them are autosaves.

Maybe it was the font mod after all ? I will start a new game, play it over the weekend and check for corrupt savegames.

I will post the result.
Thanks !

 

[Earnie]

Just wanted to say that I played alot in the last days, including a lot of saves and loads. As of today, the error hasn't occured anymore. Hopefully, it will stay that way.