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Historically A. Smetona built Šventoji naval port. It is in Šiauliai region of WiF which has naval access.
This was the problem in old HoI2 - I always wrote, that Memel does not have land connection with Latvia, as was in HoI2.
P. S. and that Šauliai region essentally is Samogitia (Žemaitija - in Lithuanian meaning lowlands, while ,,Aukštaitija" are highlands) a land full of history and with very independent people.
This was the problem in old HoI2 - I always wrote, that Memel does not have land connection with Latvia, as was in HoI2.
P. S. and that Šauliai region essentally is Samogitia (Žemaitija - in Lithuanian meaning lowlands, while ,,Aukštaitija" are highlands) a land full of history and with very independent people.
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Chapter IX
War with Poland. Part I
1939 June 25th. From the hour one Grand battle plan was scraped. As IInd cavalry division began its advance to Vilnius voivodship, Polish armed forces at the outbreak of the war tried to rush our positions in Alytus.
Maybe this was Polish grand battle plan - crush East Prussia and Lithuania while holding the front in the west.
Polish general Władysław Bortnowski commanded the attack
while Lithuanian Lt. General Stasys Raštikis was on defensive.
The priority now was reclamnation of Vilnius region. By force, if necessary.
1939 June 27th. While Lithuania was focusing its attention in the South, Soviet Union issued ultimatum to Latvian goverment. Soviets required unlimited ammounts of troops in strategic locations of Latvia, change of goverment to a more ,,loyal one". Although it was officially declared, that independence of the Republic of Latvia will be respected but the de facto Latvia was occupied.
1939 June 27th. Day later seeing the flames of war lightening up in Europe Moroccians decided to renew their independence struggle. Tha cabinet was formed, the war of independence against French oppressors began while with the Spanish a peacefull solution was achieved.
1939 June 27th. After two days of fighting with 2525 men lost and 4173 casualties inflicted Lithuanian side claimed victory.
On the same time IInd cavalry division liberated two of our historical capitals:
Vilnius
(Lithuanian Vanguard entering Vilnius)
and Trakai
(Trakai island castle in 1877)
The liberation of Vilnius region began!!!
Howl Iron Wolf. Howl of the fame of Lithuanian arms. Howl of Lithuanian Capital liberated!!!
War with Poland. Part I
1939 June 25th. From the hour one Grand battle plan was scraped. As IInd cavalry division began its advance to Vilnius voivodship, Polish armed forces at the outbreak of the war tried to rush our positions in Alytus.
Maybe this was Polish grand battle plan - crush East Prussia and Lithuania while holding the front in the west.
Polish general Władysław Bortnowski commanded the attack
while Lithuanian Lt. General Stasys Raštikis was on defensive.
The priority now was reclamnation of Vilnius region. By force, if necessary.
1939 June 27th. While Lithuania was focusing its attention in the South, Soviet Union issued ultimatum to Latvian goverment. Soviets required unlimited ammounts of troops in strategic locations of Latvia, change of goverment to a more ,,loyal one". Although it was officially declared, that independence of the Republic of Latvia will be respected but the de facto Latvia was occupied.
1939 June 27th. Day later seeing the flames of war lightening up in Europe Moroccians decided to renew their independence struggle. Tha cabinet was formed, the war of independence against French oppressors began while with the Spanish a peacefull solution was achieved.
1939 June 27th. After two days of fighting with 2525 men lost and 4173 casualties inflicted Lithuanian side claimed victory.
On the same time IInd cavalry division liberated two of our historical capitals:
Vilnius
(Lithuanian Vanguard entering Vilnius)
and Trakai
(Trakai island castle in 1877)
The liberation of Vilnius region began!!!
Howl Iron Wolf. Howl of the fame of Lithuanian arms. Howl of Lithuanian Capital liberated!!!
Woohoo! Now onwards, to Lida and Gardinas, to Suvalkai and Baltstogė, don't stop until you reach at least the 18th century border with Poland!
I'm looking forward to see what will Soviet Union do now. I don't think they will risk a war with Germany now.
Mighty >>> if Soviet Union would declare war now - maybe I would reload and try again.
Since Vilnius region was recognised as part of Lithuania - this is a mistake of developers, so I am obliged to adjust historic frequency to my liking
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Chapter X
War with Poland. Part II
After repelling Polish offensive Lithuanian forces advanced towards Grodno. Poles had only one division to counter the aggressor. Maybe a more mediocare commander would have retreated, but that division wass commanded by Lt. General Szeptycki.
By THE Legendery Lt. General Szeptycki. He was a commander with honour. While occupying the post of Minister of Military Affairs he challanged Józef Piłsudski into the duel in 1923. What a man!!! Real XIX century gentelman. Although at that time he was declined now he had very difficult misson to defend Gardinas hopelessly outnumbered and outflanked.
Szeptycki's troops faught valiantly but fell in uneven odds
Meanwhile on June 29th Estonian goverment was forced to accept Soviet ultimatum.
Both neighbours were gone. Alarmed with this situation Lithuanian grand command recalled IInd cavalry division to Kaunas - just in case - for reserves.
Now, with thousands goverment officials, righ-wing activists and various civilians fleeing Latvia and Estonia, Lithuania greeted them with open hands. Although Soviets were displeased Augustinas Voldemaras didn't close the borders. The memories from 1918-1919 were alive in Lithuanian memory as they were alive in Latvian, Polish or Estonian memories. Famine, red terror, war communism and etc.
With half of the cavalry recalled to Kaunas and Grodno with Vilnius secure in Lithuanian hands attention was turned to the last occupied Lithuanian territory - Suvalkai. It was Lithuanian city from the start of it. Founded in 1690 in the Grand Duchy of Lithuania in XIX-XX centuries up to the the Great war it was a part of Suwalkai region - a part of Lithuanian nation.
Lt. General Stasys Raštikis was dispatched to take the city. Not a shot was fired when Lithuanians marched in the streets of Suvalkai and Seinai.
But later lone Polish infantry division tried to push out Stasys Raštikis from the region.
Although it was commanded by a very skillfull commander Mj. General Anders this was not 1919, not the 1920. Lithuanian army stood its ground and withstood the offensive although outnumbered 2 to 1.
Now with 2620 soldiers and officers out of action
and with all Vilnius region reclaimed Lithuania was at a crossroads what to do?
March further as some politicians and citizens (Legolas) required? Try to recreate the Grand Duchy of Lithuania?
Or to stay and reinforce the positions as nationalists advised? Also both Soviet Union and the Third Reich acknowladged only Vilnius region, not all lands of the old Lithuania to the Republic.
P. S.
British Raj decided to back the Brits against the Axis.
Since Vilnius region was recognised as part of Lithuania - this is a mistake of developers, so I am obliged to adjust historic frequency to my liking
oChapter X
War with Poland. Part II
After repelling Polish offensive Lithuanian forces advanced towards Grodno. Poles had only one division to counter the aggressor. Maybe a more mediocare commander would have retreated, but that division wass commanded by Lt. General Szeptycki.
By THE Legendery Lt. General Szeptycki. He was a commander with honour. While occupying the post of Minister of Military Affairs he challanged Józef Piłsudski into the duel in 1923. What a man!!! Real XIX century gentelman. Although at that time he was declined now he had very difficult misson to defend Gardinas hopelessly outnumbered and outflanked.
Szeptycki's troops faught valiantly but fell in uneven odds
Meanwhile on June 29th Estonian goverment was forced to accept Soviet ultimatum.
Both neighbours were gone. Alarmed with this situation Lithuanian grand command recalled IInd cavalry division to Kaunas - just in case - for reserves.
Now, with thousands goverment officials, righ-wing activists and various civilians fleeing Latvia and Estonia, Lithuania greeted them with open hands. Although Soviets were displeased Augustinas Voldemaras didn't close the borders. The memories from 1918-1919 were alive in Lithuanian memory as they were alive in Latvian, Polish or Estonian memories. Famine, red terror, war communism and etc.
With half of the cavalry recalled to Kaunas and Grodno with Vilnius secure in Lithuanian hands attention was turned to the last occupied Lithuanian territory - Suvalkai. It was Lithuanian city from the start of it. Founded in 1690 in the Grand Duchy of Lithuania in XIX-XX centuries up to the the Great war it was a part of Suwalkai region - a part of Lithuanian nation.
Lt. General Stasys Raštikis was dispatched to take the city. Not a shot was fired when Lithuanians marched in the streets of Suvalkai and Seinai.
But later lone Polish infantry division tried to push out Stasys Raštikis from the region.
Although it was commanded by a very skillfull commander Mj. General Anders this was not 1919, not the 1920. Lithuanian army stood its ground and withstood the offensive although outnumbered 2 to 1.
Now with 2620 soldiers and officers out of action
and with all Vilnius region reclaimed Lithuania was at a crossroads what to do?
March further as some politicians and citizens (Legolas) required? Try to recreate the Grand Duchy of Lithuania?
Or to stay and reinforce the positions as nationalists advised? Also both Soviet Union and the Third Reich acknowladged only Vilnius region, not all lands of the old Lithuania to the Republic.
P. S.
British Raj decided to back the Brits against the Axis.
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(from german propaganda spot)
[video=youtube;Iq-mgGrkcDU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Iq-mgGrkcDU#t=25[/video]
SOV and GER start fighting over Poland, then you calm them down, tell Poland will be a buffer, Take it for yourself, recreate the Commonwealth...
PROFIT }:]
Anyway being serious, i do not think you can regain anything more than this until Barbarossa
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Deus Eversor, Mighty >>> The M-R pact was clear on influence zones. I think Stalin would not have passed Eastern Poland to Lithuania without any concessions. Also, Lithuania has nothing to offer to the USSR. Once again - Soviet Union took everything by a show of force in this period. Only Finns, who fought the Soviets, managed to remain independent. In my opinion - any land grab would result in tensions with the USSR.
Since in this AAR I am not doing WC - since I am trying to write alternative history (sort of) - I think this would be a SUPER aggressive and blunt and stupid strategy from Lithuanian side.
But hey, I can make Lithuania's strugle III with WC in mind :laugh:
Edit: In this AAR I am not going all chips in.
I could rush, make huge landgrabs, concentrate all divisions in the frontlines.
But no - I recall some of them, because I "think" the USSR could attack me. Although I am 90 percent sure it won't.
But this is not WC. In my first post there was no objective to repeat the Lithuania's strugle I. This time I just want to survive and get great. But no ahistorical stuff like nationalsocialist coup'deat in the USSR with soviet NKVD guarding everything and etc.
Same goes with the ministers. Antanas Smetona and other unknown figures in minister slots would be much nicer than Augustinas Voldemaras. But this is the Augustinas Voldemaras state. I want to write a story about the politician about politics about policies.
I am restricted in using the ministers who are historically plausible not necesarry the best.
Since in this AAR I am not doing WC - since I am trying to write alternative history (sort of) - I think this would be a SUPER aggressive and blunt and stupid strategy from Lithuanian side.
But hey, I can make Lithuania's strugle III with WC in mind :laugh:
Edit: In this AAR I am not going all chips in.
I could rush, make huge landgrabs, concentrate all divisions in the frontlines.
But no - I recall some of them, because I "think" the USSR could attack me. Although I am 90 percent sure it won't.
But this is not WC. In my first post there was no objective to repeat the Lithuania's strugle I. This time I just want to survive and get great. But no ahistorical stuff like nationalsocialist coup'deat in the USSR with soviet NKVD guarding everything and etc.
Same goes with the ministers. Antanas Smetona and other unknown figures in minister slots would be much nicer than Augustinas Voldemaras. But this is the Augustinas Voldemaras state. I want to write a story about the politician about politics about policies.
I am restricted in using the ministers who are historically plausible not necesarry the best.
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And i very much approve of such aar making policy, though sad, that su much creative materiel is wasted here, while one could write a book about such story in such a time line
Chapter XI
War with Poland. Part III
In the treaties of 1920 and 1926 Soviet Russia and Soviet Union recognised Vilnius region (Vilnius, Gardinas, Suvalkai) to Lithuania.
In the agreement of 1933 with the Third Reich Vilnius region was recognised as a region of Lithuania under Polish occupation.
In Molotov-Ribbentrop pact Lithuanian claims on Vilnius region were respected by both the Germans and the Russians.
None of these treaties recognised Lithuanian borders as in year 1772, 1791 or 1793.
These were reasonings for Lithuanian military to stay in Vilnius region.
Between two options - to stay in Vilnius region - or to march onwards - President of Lithuania, Augustinas Voldemaras, selected the middle way.
The instructions were:
To support German advance but not to occupy any non-claimed territory.
With this course of action Lithuania would ensure the security of its borders and in turn it would not violate international treaties. Only Vilnius region was a part of Lithuania.
When German General Wilhlem Keitel began the offensive in Bialystok, Lithuanian Ist cavalry division, IInd infantry division and Ist headquarters supported German advance.
On the opposing side was very famous Polish General Józef Haller von Hallenburg.
Both generals were the veterans from the Great war.
Wilhelm Keitel was a simple man. A commoner, a supporter of Adolf Hitler, a loyal soldier now commanding 6 modern divisions on uptrend in German high command having chance to lead most modern infantry divisions in the field.
Józef Haller von Hallenburg was a different man. A son from a noble family, served in the Great War, helped to forge and defend the independence of Poland fell out of favor after 1926 Pilsudski's copu'deat. Now reacalled from the reserves he had a task to defend Bialystok a northern town in Poland.
But being overwhelmed he could not resist German-Lithuanian offensive.
With the blunt of Polish forces in disarray Soviets used this chance to enter their interest zone.
Although Soviet newspapers depicted the invasion as liberation
the reaction from Ukrainians and Poles was lukewarm. Soviet Union had no significant claims on Eastern Poland (no cores). Lots of Poles and Ukrainians were suspicious of the new liberators. From their perspective they had no buisiness in Eastern Poland like Germans or Lithuanians were out of place in the middle of Warsaw.
During these events in the evening July 13 some Polish militias tried to retake Vilnius but IInd cavalry division managed to scare them off with some patrols and warning shots.
No losses on any side.
With Polish forces being decimated and in total collapse
Poland was annxed.
Although some elements escaped through Romania Third Reich and Soviet Union had free hands in the region. They adjusted borders and German–Soviet Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Demarcation treaty was signed. Vilnius region once again was recognised as a part of the Republic of Lithuania.
With Poland out of the picture the Soviets and Germans could act as they please.
Meanwhile Lithuania by supporting German cause managed to reclaim Vilnius region.
The war for now cost 3498 soldiers.
War with Poland. Part III
In the treaties of 1920 and 1926 Soviet Russia and Soviet Union recognised Vilnius region (Vilnius, Gardinas, Suvalkai) to Lithuania.
In the agreement of 1933 with the Third Reich Vilnius region was recognised as a region of Lithuania under Polish occupation.
In Molotov-Ribbentrop pact Lithuanian claims on Vilnius region were respected by both the Germans and the Russians.
None of these treaties recognised Lithuanian borders as in year 1772, 1791 or 1793.
These were reasonings for Lithuanian military to stay in Vilnius region.
Between two options - to stay in Vilnius region - or to march onwards - President of Lithuania, Augustinas Voldemaras, selected the middle way.
The instructions were:
To support German advance but not to occupy any non-claimed territory.
With this course of action Lithuania would ensure the security of its borders and in turn it would not violate international treaties. Only Vilnius region was a part of Lithuania.
When German General Wilhlem Keitel began the offensive in Bialystok, Lithuanian Ist cavalry division, IInd infantry division and Ist headquarters supported German advance.
On the opposing side was very famous Polish General Józef Haller von Hallenburg.
Both generals were the veterans from the Great war.
Wilhelm Keitel was a simple man. A commoner, a supporter of Adolf Hitler, a loyal soldier now commanding 6 modern divisions on uptrend in German high command having chance to lead most modern infantry divisions in the field.
Józef Haller von Hallenburg was a different man. A son from a noble family, served in the Great War, helped to forge and defend the independence of Poland fell out of favor after 1926 Pilsudski's copu'deat. Now reacalled from the reserves he had a task to defend Bialystok a northern town in Poland.
But being overwhelmed he could not resist German-Lithuanian offensive.
With the blunt of Polish forces in disarray Soviets used this chance to enter their interest zone.
Although Soviet newspapers depicted the invasion as liberation
the reaction from Ukrainians and Poles was lukewarm. Soviet Union had no significant claims on Eastern Poland (no cores). Lots of Poles and Ukrainians were suspicious of the new liberators. From their perspective they had no buisiness in Eastern Poland like Germans or Lithuanians were out of place in the middle of Warsaw.
During these events in the evening July 13 some Polish militias tried to retake Vilnius but IInd cavalry division managed to scare them off with some patrols and warning shots.
No losses on any side.
With Polish forces being decimated and in total collapse
Poland was annxed.
Although some elements escaped through Romania Third Reich and Soviet Union had free hands in the region. They adjusted borders and German–Soviet Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Demarcation treaty was signed. Vilnius region once again was recognised as a part of the Republic of Lithuania.
With Poland out of the picture the Soviets and Germans could act as they please.
Meanwhile Lithuania by supporting German cause managed to reclaim Vilnius region.
The war for now cost 3498 soldiers.
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Mighty >>> well, it depends.
I have few possible scenarios:
1. Cede Memel to Germany as agreed (dark protocols). Lithuania does not support German arms - it stays like Slovakia in its own territory.
2. Re-negotiate the terms. In exchange for keeping the Memel/ Klaipėda region - support German war effort and leave Lithuania lightly guarded against possible Soviet onslaught?
In my opinion option number 1 is much more plausible.
Unless You (the audience) can convince me otherwise. Since I did not play further - no idea what's next.
EDIT: I just see the possibilities if I would apply time-travel option
I have few possible scenarios:
1. Cede Memel to Germany as agreed (dark protocols). Lithuania does not support German arms - it stays like Slovakia in its own territory.
2. Re-negotiate the terms. In exchange for keeping the Memel/ Klaipėda region - support German war effort and leave Lithuania lightly guarded against possible Soviet onslaught?
In my opinion option number 1 is much more plausible.
Unless You (the audience) can convince me otherwise. Since I did not play further - no idea what's next.
EDIT: I just see the possibilities if I would apply time-travel option
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Well..for historical purpose .. I think you should give Klaipedia to Germany.
You already lost 3500 men .. you should keep your troops in Lithuania and get ready for Barbarossa !
You'll have to build a port in Siaulai I think.
You already lost 3500 men .. you should keep your troops in Lithuania and get ready for Barbarossa !
You'll have to build a port in Siaulai I think.
you see, ai is not like this, obviously - in reality Germans would be going Danzig and stuff, but ai is not designed so, there is no event for such occurance either. In some cases such divergences cause a gamebreaking end result (a completely odd and unrealistic) same as if you would ally or defeat Germans as Poles and then all WW2 does not happen and no further events occur. In here we only have the lack of the obvious demand, luckily it's all that is not happening although it everything and everyone knows it should.
Yeah, in this case, Germany would definitely demand Klaipeda. I mean, Lithuania is completely dependent on Germany at this point - they must do everything Hitler says as their only other option are the Soviets, who have already exhibited Lithuania's fate with the other Baltic states. Maybe Germany could receive Klaipeda, but the Germans would fund the construction of a new port in Siauliai? I think that'd kinda make sense if the Germans want to keep the Lithuanians sort-of-happy as their eastern outpost.
I get demands for territory sometimes. If he's getting those regularly he should certainly give in. If not, he probably can't give it to Germany anyways. However a rabid nationalist like Voldemaras (sic) wouldn't want to give up territory unless he had to.