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CVL are excellent ships in AoD.

They are very cheap and have awesome detection values plus insane ASW and anti-air abilities. During the early war (39-42) CVL can be used as escort vessels to provide cover for important capital ships and transports or as hunter-killer groups. In other words: Early war CVL are escort vessels, not combat vessels!

Some early war setup suggestions:
3 CVL + 3-9 TP
1 CVL + 5 DD
3 CVL + 3 DD
3-4 BB + 3-2 CVL + 6 CL/DD

Since CVL are long-range combat units, they will usually try to get to max distance when escorting TPs - and due to their superior detection values, enemies will *probably* (unconfirmed!) have a lower chance to start close to your fleet.

Later on, they get decent sea- and convoy attack values and around Tier III to IV (your LCAG being that level is enough, main ship can still be lower level), you can actually use CVL task groups for patrol and convoy raiding. Again, range and spotting abilites gives CVL a good chance to survive enemy encounters - even enemy BB will usually start out of range and you will have a good chance to deliever some damage before your CVL retreat (this are by no means deceisive battles, but you will sometimes deal severe damage or even sink ships without having to fear retaliation!). I did some impressive damage to japanese shipping with this tactic.

Suggestions for late war setup:
3 CVL + 3 CL/DD
6 CVL + 6 CL/DD

Obviously you should not mix CVL with regular CV unless the enemy has massive air units available or you want to have maximum protection for your CV stack. They lack range and firepower and will not help much in CV engagements.
 

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Yes, if you mix fleets in general it is a good idea. I tend to use fleets of 6CV/6CL as carrier task forces, so I am usually not adding any other capitals.

Although I have yet to see any big CV battles, since the japanese AI isn't so keen on naval warfare, it was more or less cakewalk as USA in my last few games, despite not building any additonal CV... :D
 
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If your 6CV/6CL stumble upon a sub fleet you will get creamed! CV/CL's don't fight subs as well as they used to in HOI 2.
Well, I don't know what subs you are talking about... :D
...the subs I know in AoD are abyssmal at sea combat, plus they rarely have a chance to close in on CV fleets. I have played a sub heavy strategy as GER, techrushing naval doctrines - and have maybe sunk 4 or 5 capital ships during the whole war...
 

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IIRC from HoI2 then Capital ships will be prioritized by enemy bombers, meaning CLs will hardly help at all even if they have huge amounts of airattack.
Afaik air-to-ground (and air-to-sea) battle mechanics had been changed with Arma, so CL *should* actually attack naval bombers, even if they are not targeted...
...or did i miss something?