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Maybe this is WAD but, if so, it seems counterintuitive, so I thought I'd flag it as a possible bug.

When a liege is given the "righteous imprisonment" notification due to discovering a vassal plotting, then fails in the arrest attempt, and the vassal decides to declare war as a result. It is the liege, not the vassal, who is considered the attacker for the purposes of who has a truce imposed on them at the end of the war.

This seems very strange, given that in this case it's the vassal who's chosing to fight, rather than flee or give themselves up.

It also seems contradictory to the notion that the liege's other vassals consider the plotter a traitor for fighting against their liege in these circumstances (to the extent that the liege won't lose opinion with other vassals for stripping a title from the plotter after the war.)

It also leads to a situation where the liege's hands are essentially tied from acting against the plotter for 10yrs after the rebellion.
If the plotter is released, or escapes, and is caught plotting again during the truce period, but refuses to end the plot, there's not much the liege can do about it without risking taking the significant penalties which come with breaking a truce; if the liege attempts another arrest and fails he can be forced into a war in which he'll, once again, be considered the attacker.

I realise that the game has to be balanced to be fair whether one is playing a vassal or a liege, but in this case it does seem to be the liege who is getting the rough end of the bargain.
Thanks for reading. :)
 
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While reading the V1.103 patch notes I noticed that a fix for this issue was included in it, so I thought I'd come back and say thanks!

As someone new to Paradox's games, I'm really impressed with how much you seem to listen to player feedback, and how frequently you're putting out patches to fix issues which arise. Some other Developers could learn a thing or two from you guys. :)
 

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Paradox usually make small hot fix patches after new major dlc's are released. Usually its one or two sometimes more if there is some major bugs still around after the first two. Doomdark said that the next patch is going to be in august when next dlc's will come out. So the latest patch was the last of the hot fixes.