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What we need to decide is what terms the peace treaty between the U.K. and Germnay were signed as Germany didn't wish to stretch itself so far as to take on the whole world.

British Empire would not have conceded much, if anything, as the war would probably have been over when germany marched into paris. It's likely that all non-european concessions to germany would be in north africa, north west of cameroon

 

[Zuckergußgebäck]

I´d say that ger5many were aimiing if not for world conquest, then at least fror dominance, meaning a large stretch of Central africa going to germany.

I´ll get a map up ASAP, but it is currently dinner time...

 

[unmerged(29835)]

we can't let germany have too much otherwise it is unlikely SU would be able to crush germany as it would have too much overseas resources. Apart from north west africa, they would probably only gain belgian congo

 

[Zuckergußgebäck]

OK, so thia is my prototype, Portugal is stripped of her more important african cities, and Germany takes enough territory from France and England to link up their old colonies to form a 'German central africa', they also annex the algerian coast, the brits are alloed to keep the Sudan, and in the south, a Boer nation emerges (south african tag).

As the scenario starts, The germans have been pushed out of the Algerian coast. The situation in central africa is as follows:

The germans are pushed back to roughly the eastern border of the Congo, and in the north, british forces have seized Kenya and are mving towards Tangyanika, the coasts of the Boer nation and German west africa are occupied by british forces and the former portugese colonies hav been liberated.

This is how it stands:

 

[unmerged(29835)]

Looks good, but I'm not sure about the boer nation. What's the story behind it?

 

[Zuckergußgebäck]

At the beginnings of WWI, German offcicials took contact with ultra-nationalist Boers in the north, promising them contraband and support for a boer nation if they took up arms against the brits, so they did, but as german west africa fell, the rebellion was swiftly put down.

Allenby should be able to explain this better.

Check this

 

[unmerged(29835)]

You've convinced me. But would it be a puppet of germany?

 

[unmerged(18043)]

You've convinced me. But would it be a puppet of germany?

Can puppets DOW against their masters? If not you could say that as teh allies pushed Germnay back deeper into Africa they offered to assist the Boer's in throwing of the shackles of their german opressors. So it would not be a puppet anymore (at least in the games timespan).

Zucker: On the section of the current map the liberated province would remain in control of thier normal countries. IE the freed english lands would still belong to england etc..

Don't worry too much about the VP zones germany has because the event will take care of the peace terms. Actually the end to the war against germany might be the largest event in HoI by the time we figure out where all the provinces go to.

 

[Zuckergußgebäck]

Can puppets DOW against their masters? If not you could say that as teh allies pushed Germnay back deeper into Africa they offered to assist the Boer's in throwing of the shackles of their german opressors. So it would not be a puppet anymore (at least in the games timespan).

I think that the Boers should at least be in the german alliance, but it woild be a sort of tarnished relationship with lots of mistrust

Zucker: On the section of the current map the liberated province would remain in control of thier normal countries. IE the freed english lands would still belong to england etc..

I guess so...

Don't worry too much about the VP zones germany has because the event will take care of the peace terms. Actually the end to the war against germany might be the largest event in HoI by the time we figure out where all the provinces go to.

Hmmm... I think we should handle province allocation first...

 

[unmerged(18043)]

I think that the Boers should at least be in the german alliance, but it woild be a sort of tarnished relationship with lots of mistrust

How do we model that? create an event that lets them out of the alliance?

I guess so...

I meant that as a question sorry. Feel free to agree or not, should it be whoever freed them gets them? or a We'll sort it out when Germany has collasped kind of deal?

Hmmm... I think we should handle province allocation first

As in who hold what at the start? I agree, but we should also keep notes on what the planned divvy would be.

 

[Zuckergußgebäck]

How do we model that? create an event that lets them out of the alliance?

I say we model it like this:

Alliance with Germany
Loads of dissent

I meant that as a question sorry. Feel free to agree or not, should it be whoever freed them gets them? or a We'll sort it out when Germany has collasped kind of deal?

To avoid having too many province-change-hands events, we could just give them to their 'normal' countries

As in who hold what at the start? I agree, but we should also keep notes on what the planned divvy would be.

Yeah, you keep the notes , make the scenario and post screenshots while I and sultan sips russian tea from a Samovar - with vodka prepared by Raspie.

 

[unmerged(18043)]

Yeah somehow I think you guys are getting off easy on this one....Oh wait that's why It's called LGW's EvW Mod.

But no really your guys advice and ideas are what I need. Have to have reason behind the madness.

I'll try and Get a Screenie up later today of Africa.

So Just simply Use South Africa to represent the Boers?

 

[Zuckergußgebäck]

Yeah, just cahenge the country name too, and try to get a screenie of Asia aswell...

 

[unmerged(29835)]

Africa and the pacific could be split up the same as RL, only Japan gets only small amount of islands, and belgian has to give up congo to France and UK as compensation. The fact that Germany are bound to lose will mean it doesn't matter about making boers leaving Germany, but high dissent could still be good. The victory event will have to move the german alliance to a neutral country because IIRC when there are only two alliances left and at (temporary)peace, the game ends.

 

[Zuckergußgebäck]

It does? I didn´t know that... Anyway, we could have a country at the courils... and there we remover the beach...

 

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Yeah, just cahenge the country name too, and try to get a screenie of Asia aswell...

So will we have SU buffer states there, to allow for more manpower in the east and for more playable nations?

 

[Zuckergußgebäck]

I think that we use the suggestion I presented, but if you have any other, I am all ears.

 

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It does? I didn´t know that... Anyway, we could have a country at the courils... and there we remover the beach...

I'm sure it does although it may have changed in a patch. I'm sure I can remember having taken germany with US and not being able to DOW SU because the game ended. I also thought that was part of the reason for an alaskan island being part of the comintern in TGW mod.

 

[Zuckergußgebäck]

I also thought that was part of the reason for an alaskan island being part of the comintern in TGW mod.

No, that was so that there would be a comintern for SU to join.

But then, we can have a country at the courils...

 

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I think that we use the suggestion I presented, but if you have any other, I am all ears.

I meant as in keeping monglia as puppet(and possibly making inner mongolia at end of war)and also puppeting sinkiang(?)