Yeah, before a western puppet is installed, I´d suggest German pockets in Saarbrücken, Köln and Berlin. Consisting of understrength Militia brigade and one suvearly damaged panzer brigade in Berlin...
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Lord G. Q. White said:
No, as said before, France should control the Benelux and then there should be pockets in köln, Saarbrücken and Berlin.
Will the allies be at war with the soviets at this point, or will that come later on?Zuckergußgebäck said:
Sultan Of Swing said:
They'd either have to be at peace or the Event that creates two seperate germanies would trigger the peace. Kind of like a peace accoprd kind of event, a la the winter war triggers.
This is actually turning rather easy as much of what we need is modeled somewhere in the game already.
Here's a Screenie of our Mod so far. Forgive the units I only removed the offending ones. I'm not sure If I made the pockets right. I gave france the swath because I didn't really want to put it in th Belgian's or Dutch Hands.
If we need to we can give those zones to them instead.
If we need to we can give those zones to them instead.
I think one of forts in the sedetenland should be German, just to hassle the USSR. The two north west German provinces in French hands should be British. Is Yugoslavia et al. going to be in the war?
Sultan Of Swing said:
Noted and Revised
Should they be? I gave Russia down to Bulgaria keeping Greece Free.
I think Italy should be on Germany's side. Or even put it in civil war between communists and the facists...
If we put Italy on Germany's side it will get steamrolled. But I like the idea of a CW. Yugo is peacfull as it would get crushed by the Soviets.
I think they would be invaded by the USSR and so would be fighting with the allies, having expeditionary forces from various other allies. Possibly the same for greece.Lord G. Q. White said:
Should I scale back the Soviets in the east and allow more Exp. Forces into those countries.
Stupid me Italy is at LEAST at war with Germany, you can see they took part of Austria.
The more I look at this it seems like Maybe WW1 Went to the Central Powers and the (Allies I forget their actual name) are just now getting revenge. Russia fixed its time of troubles and Germany thinking everything was peaceful wasn't prepared to be steamrolled by two Giants. Maybe the USA didn't join WW1. But N.A.T.O. or somesuch is formed and they have slowely beaten Germnay back to this point. Austia-Hungary had a falling out with Germany and a War ensued leading to both being weak when the Soviets and Allies struck.
What do you think?
The more I look at this it seems like Maybe WW1 Went to the Central Powers and the (Allies I forget their actual name) are just now getting revenge. Russia fixed its time of troubles and Germany thinking everything was peaceful wasn't prepared to be steamrolled by two Giants. Maybe the USA didn't join WW1. But N.A.T.O. or somesuch is formed and they have slowely beaten Germnay back to this point. Austia-Hungary had a falling out with Germany and a War ensued leading to both being weak when the Soviets and Allies struck.
What do you think?
I think Romania should also hold the two swamp provinces, and if greece and yug. are in the war then Beograd, novi sad, nis and thessaloniki should be soviet. If the allies aren't too tied up in asia then there should be just enough expeds to hold back the soviets until germany is completely under control.
Sounds good, but I still think Italy should be preoccupied with civil unrest, due to soviet success elsewhereLord G. Q. White said:
Ok. My Knees are getting sore from sitting so I'm going out for food. Asia Is unless I'm missing something somewhere which is possible, rather quiet. I'll edit the changes to the Map later and post an updated Screen by Saterday (east coast time).
We'll Also have to come up with possible #'s of Units for each country. Depending on the reason for this particular war the number of units could be rather low.
How did Turkey/Ottoman Empire look around WW1 should we give them any extra lands?
The biggest threats not in Europe would be the Soviets advancing into Iraq so Exp. Forces should be sent there.
Kinda a lower vs upper Italy?
We'll Also have to come up with possible #'s of Units for each country. Depending on the reason for this particular war the number of units could be rather low.
How did Turkey/Ottoman Empire look around WW1 should we give them any extra lands?
The biggest threats not in Europe would be the Soviets advancing into Iraq so Exp. Forces should be sent there.
Kinda a lower vs upper Italy?
If the central powers won, then ottoman empire would control northern egypt, arabian peninsular(including iraq) and kars area in russia. also cyprus. Either they would be invaded by Russia over kars area and side with germany, facing a similar fate of being caught between two powers, or they side with allies for protection. In asia, communist china might be finishing off nationalists. Japan could be fighting china in manchuria(possibly only once chinese civil war is over). soviets and allies may or may not be interfering with china at this point.Lord G. Q. White said:
Lower being run by trade unionists, north run by mussolini and the fascists, yes, sounds good.Lord G. Q. White said:
Why do I have the feeling that we've unlocked something rather large with our simple plan?
I Think France should perhaps control Freiburg...
And Italy holding Konstanz....
But this 'Central powers win' would implicate major changes everywhere, would France and the west really had been allowed to recover? And would the Kaiser let communism spread in Russia?
*Ping!*
(Idea coming!)
1) Germany wins WWI, by means of a successfull Kaiserschlacht and takes the areas that are portrayed in TGW, apart from Africa.
2) The OE is also on the winning side, but fails miserably to reform and modernize, and is shaken by Revolts, at this stage, they should probably just control northern iraq and Syria.
3) The Kaiser intervenes in the Russian civil war, but the german army, exhausted after four years of trench warfare makes only slow progress, allowing to soviets to seize control of Russia and proclaim 'world revolution'
4) As the german army is bleeding to death in Poland and the Blatic, the west have gathered a sizeable army, and attacks Germany.¨
I do not have a clue on how to portray Italy though, Mussolini came to power on the basis of the small Italian gains at Versailles and Trianon...
Ottoman empire after WWI, a few months later, they had begun to lose all their gains.
Situation as it is now, the puny country in the north-east is Armenia, arabic penninsula consists of 'The arab confederacy', southern Iraq is juat Iraq, and Syria is Syria. Libya and Tunisia is the country of Sanusia and Finally, with jerusalem, there´s Egypt
And Italy holding Konstanz....
But this 'Central powers win' would implicate major changes everywhere, would France and the west really had been allowed to recover? And would the Kaiser let communism spread in Russia?
*Ping!*
(Idea coming!)
1) Germany wins WWI, by means of a successfull Kaiserschlacht and takes the areas that are portrayed in TGW, apart from Africa.
2) The OE is also on the winning side, but fails miserably to reform and modernize, and is shaken by Revolts, at this stage, they should probably just control northern iraq and Syria.
3) The Kaiser intervenes in the Russian civil war, but the german army, exhausted after four years of trench warfare makes only slow progress, allowing to soviets to seize control of Russia and proclaim 'world revolution'
4) As the german army is bleeding to death in Poland and the Blatic, the west have gathered a sizeable army, and attacks Germany.¨
I do not have a clue on how to portray Italy though, Mussolini came to power on the basis of the small Italian gains at Versailles and Trianon...
Ottoman empire after WWI, a few months later, they had begun to lose all their gains.
Situation as it is now, the puny country in the north-east is Armenia, arabic penninsula consists of 'The arab confederacy', southern Iraq is juat Iraq, and Syria is Syria. Libya and Tunisia is the country of Sanusia and Finally, with jerusalem, there´s Egypt
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Looks like a good idea, although neutral countries such as US would make sure the central powers would not take too much land in the treaty.
Italy would still have sided with the entente, and as they lose, there would still be large fascist support as in RL. Trade unions would be encouraged by soviet successes, just as Italian fascists feared in RL. This time the violent fascist oppression of communists in the country would be met with resistance, and the 'biennio rosso' - IRL being 1919-1920 where factories(mostly in NW Italy) and land (mostly in South Italy) would be seized by trade unionists and other poor workers without intervention from the government - would have been more violent, begun slightly later, now led by an unassassinated Matteotti, and lasted up to and during the first part of this mod.Zuckergußgebäck said: