I find that being unable to cross Christian lands really disadvantages Muslims and Pagans in DV. Is there any way to change this, or is it hardcoded?
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I would assume this sort of thing is hardcoded.
True, it disadvantages them, but i'd call it realistic anyway. And the opposite applies to christians too, doesn't it, so how is this unfair?
True, it disadvantages them, but i'd call it realistic anyway. And the opposite applies to christians too, doesn't it, so how is this unfair?
No, christians can cross any Muslim/Pagan land if they are at war with a Muslim/Pagan.
Disadvantage is there on purpose. They wanted to get rid of the Sheikdom of Bohemia (it was previously a common occasion that Fatimids or Seljuks conquered some provinces from the middle of the Central Europe, because Bohemians participated to the crusade.) At least now they have to start from the coastal provinces or conquer Eastern Europe first.
... and christians are allowed to cross muslim lands so that the AI would at least sometimes succeed in taking Jerusalem. It isn't smart enough to declare war on the coastal sheikdoms to get to Jerusalem, so the crusaders almost never made it to Jerusalem.
Unfair?? .. yes, but neccessary I think.
Unfair?? .. yes, but neccessary I think.
I'm sorry to hear that. The "Sheikdom of Praha" phenomenon never bothered me that much. True, it's unhistorical, but the way the Christians take down most of the Muslim and Pagan world in most of my games is completely unhistorical.
I have seen also results where Christians have lost to Muslims, till I made intervention. In recent game I made intervention when Taifa Muslims managed to conquer half of France, Burgundy and Italy.
It is such a shame to see Christians to travel without hindrance from Northern France to Baghdad. The Seljuk armies, on the other hand, are limited to coastal invasions only. It seems the Muslims have no chance to reach a non-coastal province while the Bohemians happily loot and siege in the middle of Persia.
Though I rarely see the AI do such things.
In my games I also don't see the Muslims lands being overrun by Christians att all.
Same with me but before DV I'd see the Bohemian sheikdoms every game. The change has made a more historical outcome in my games.
In my games the whole of North Africa and most of the Middle East are usually conquered within fifty years. The only way to stop it is to switch off the Crusades. Also, the Russians nearly always destroy the Cumans and Lithuanians pretty quickly.
In my current game Lower Lorraine, the Pope, Toscany and Venice have conquered a big part of north Africa (Snassen to Tripolitania), Aquitaine's taken a band from Malaga to Silves, and Castille is the remaining Jimenez and has started the reconquista. France conquered a big part of Egypt due to an Alexandria crusade, but has lost all but Cairo and Alexandria now. That feels like a lot for the AI in 34 years (hard/coward).
In my previous, still ongoing game (normal/normal), noone else really got a chance to do anything really, since I started with Aquitaine, did a reconquista, conquered Africa, Sicily, Egypt and the Holy Land along with some kingdoms, and then moved on to complete a world conquest in the 1220s. So dunno.
Agenor: You say the Russians win out pretty quickly, how about the Mongols later on?
In my previous, still ongoing game (normal/normal), noone else really got a chance to do anything really, since I started with Aquitaine, did a reconquista, conquered Africa, Sicily, Egypt and the Holy Land along with some kingdoms, and then moved on to complete a world conquest in the 1220s. So dunno.
Agenor: You say the Russians win out pretty quickly, how about the Mongols later on?
well, in my game the muslims/pagans and christians are pretty even. All the Spanish nations were wiped out, the Emirate of Jerusalem crippled Scotland, which is now fractured, and the russians are getting pwnd by various tribes, and Hungary just got eaten by a HUGE Cuman nation, and Sicily now has 2 provinces, the rest of southern italy and sicily owned mostly be the Zirids.
Of course, christians have been doing well elsewhere. Tunisia was taken over by the Count of Arborea, who took the Duke of Tunisia title, France, Brittany, and Scotland have begun messing around with the Taifa's, with the rest of the British isles likely to get involved once they kick the various moorish factions that control the south of Ireland and Wales out. The Turks haven't spread into Anatolia yet, even though it is splintered, b/c of a Georgia that stretches from Alania to Aleppo.
Of course, I HAD been helping in Jerusalem, Antioch area, and own some land there, but as Croatia, I think finding a way to kick the Cuman's out of Hungary is a priority. I have enough men to do it, but it would completely cripple me for decades.
Of course, christians have been doing well elsewhere. Tunisia was taken over by the Count of Arborea, who took the Duke of Tunisia title, France, Brittany, and Scotland have begun messing around with the Taifa's, with the rest of the British isles likely to get involved once they kick the various moorish factions that control the south of Ireland and Wales out. The Turks haven't spread into Anatolia yet, even though it is splintered, b/c of a Georgia that stretches from Alania to Aleppo.
Of course, I HAD been helping in Jerusalem, Antioch area, and own some land there, but as Croatia, I think finding a way to kick the Cuman's out of Hungary is a priority. I have enough men to do it, but it would completely cripple me for decades.