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Vistariel

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So I did it folks. I achieved immortality in my ironman Roman Empire S.P.Q.R. Achievement run (which I am now wishing I had done way back when it was easier). I am now one of the 0.04% of the folks that have this achievement. It is actually super convenient for where I'm at, as I have over 25 vassal kings and now I don't have to worry about stability problems with succession anymore. All Hail God Empress Isabella! She continues to bear fruit of the womb at 55+.

So I wanted to discuss how the event chain works and what I've deduced from it so that you may also achieve immortality--or at least avoid an untimely demise. Feel free to contribute what you have discerned as well. This chain is highly costly, and it represents likely the largest gamble chain the in game thus far as you have a very high chance of failing. This can result in you being maimed, mangled, depressed, killed, or unwillingly reincarnated (i.e. killed).

1. When the event fires how the event chain will progress will depend on the stats of your advisors. If you have amazing advisors you will have an opportunity to have them investigate immortality for you. If you have multiple options you will want to pick the advisor whose stat YOU have highest. So if you have high diplomacy and can pick the chancellor, go with him.

2. As the events go on you will be apprenticed to a courtier of some non-Christian variety (if Christian, I haven't done this as a non-Christian). The courtier that comes corresponds to the following advisor:

Chancellor = Beautiful Norse Girl
Marshal = African Warrior Woman
Spymaster = Muslim Crone (often hunchbacked and/or ugly)
Chaplain = Buddhist/Hindu Precocious Child (implied conscientious reincarnate)
Steward = ?

What the steward brings I do not know yet, as that is the one path I haven't taken (if it exists).

3. There will be two events spaced a few months to a year apart which involve some form of training and/or proving your merit before actually starting the final chain. If you fail at any point in these the quest will cancel and you will likely get away with minimal consequences, but death and maiming are always something of a possibility. These events will give you the chance to obtain traits. For example, you can get Brawny (success) or Frail (failure) through the Norse Girl quest.

*Take note that in my experience most of the options to throw money at the quest typically fail. I think that paying is just a pure RNG if it ever succeeds at all, and I think in some cases the choice equals failure always. The other options will always succeed as a function/probability of your attribute level for that exercise (i.e. pickpocketing for the intrigue path).

4. If you succeed in the first trials you will initiate the final event path which will have 2-3 events in close succession.

Diplomacy = Seeking out a sacred apple of Iðunn in Scandinavia.
Martial & Learning = Drinking a magical potion.
Intrigue = Synthesizing the Philosopher's Stone
Stewardship = ?

The final events success, which will determine whether you gain immortality or (almost always) die hinges upon your stat for that path. I am pretty much convinced that if your stat is lower than 25 you will likely fail. If you succeed, you will gain immortality. This will halt your aging and make you impervious to disease. I am not sure of all the details, but I acquired immortality in my mid-twenties, and have continued with a young portrait and birthing children far into my fifties.

Keep in mind you can still die randomly from events that fire, such as the crying for help while drunk event.

So basically my recommendation is, if you are attached to your ruler or them dying in that 2 year time frame would induce catastrophic consequences, then it is probably best if you just abort the mission. If they do not have a stat over 25 it is also likely not worth pursuing unless you want unfortunate things to befall your ruler.

Have fun!
 
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I'm interested to know the extent of immortality granted by the trait. Other than the events you mentioned, are there any other ones that may kill you off?

My nomadic ruler managed to achieve immortality through the event chain (albeit, not like you really need an immortal ruler when playing as a nomad :rolleyes:), but he still gets affected by plague and sickness. I don't really mind if he dies since i have many capable successors after him, but I'd be interested in seeing that he hit 200+ years old and roleplay as a myth/legend-like figure.
 

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I just had the chain fire for Alexios Komnenos less than a year into an Alexiad start. Sadly there hasn't been enough time to get his martial high enough, and that's the path that fired. Even with a little console boost pushing him up to a martial of 27 that last event is rough.
 

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The trait also gives you like, +10 health, so on top of your base 5 you should be able to survive pretty much any disease. The plague is -7 IIRC for comparison.
 

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I wish there were more events related to immortal rulers.
 
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Oddly enough, I'm not really into the immortality thing even though I like most of the other "fantasy" aspects. The event chain does sound interesting though, so I might have to go for it just for fun. I usually can't wait for my ruler to die. The ruler dies when their heir is themselves now in their 40's. Thus I am obviously a big fan of Reaper's Due.
 
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I wish they would add some more events related to immortality. It's odd that no one cares about ruler living for like 200 years.
 
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Who wants to live forever?
 
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Cool, seems like everyone had at least one immortal ruler, and I don't even get the first event. Is conclave needed to be immortal?
 
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No, only RD.

Anyway, my first immortal was Baudouin III, starting in 1157 after the Seljuk sultanate gets nuked. Would've been nice if there were flavor events about the Holy Land being ruled by an immortal, maybe even making him the source of the Fisher King myth.
 
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I've basically only ever gone with my chaplin, and while it's true I've gotten the buddhist child 3/5 times (And even succeeded with the event chain once! What a disappointment), the other two times I got the muslim crone. In fact that's what happened the very first time I got the event. So maybe something has changed since RD has launched? But I've definitely gotten different courtiers come while selecting the same advisor.
 

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I almost managed to finish the event as a viking king of Frisia once, but I sadly died during the last part of the Philosopher's Stone chain.
 

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I got bored of playing after i got the united kingdoms achievment as the great emperor of britania, the 160 year old one eyed, one handed, disfigured and lunatic character.
He got lunatic because of a fever, and the other problems are only from botched treatments. YOU SHOULDN'T BE IN A ABRAHAMIC RELIGION AFTER YOU GET IMMORTAL.
 
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Well yea the fact that nobody notices the king of france is celebrating his 200th year is really odd especially christians. Theres no way to force the player to be pagan though since they can always just convert bavk via province/wife/concubine/chaplain events.

I got immortal playing a republic which is probably the most value you can get since now you never need to spend any of the money in your election fund ever again. Disadvatage is you cant change capital to get a pagan religion and go conquering.

Added bonus if your pagan and get the norse girl you can force her to become a concubine and eventually she'll lose her celibate trait meaning you could have two immortal gods popping out kids for all eternity.
 

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I've had it fire twice in my current game which has been going 500 some years, first one I failed the martial path despite Padern the Bear having a really high martial and the second time my chaplain just failed to bring anyone.

Very much agree on their being events tied to you're longevity, it's arguably (?) the biggest deal ever, there really needs to be some kind of effect.
 

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Getting it as Haestein of Nantes is probably the most broken thing ever. With all the event bonuses you eventually accrue from tons of raiding and the different life style events, I've managed to get a 50+ Martial stat ruler (he's now a lunatic, werewolf, cannibal, who also killed Cthulhu)
 
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My first immortal was Charlamenge. Turns out it was a pretty boring game after that especially since I decided to conquer but not convert the Saxons (they proceeded to conquer Scandinavia for me).

But yeah, there should be a bit more people noticing the fact your character never dies.
 
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