Lets talk EVENTS for 1945+

[xjermx]

As has already been mentioned, we need some events for the 1945 scenario. (And I'll go ahead and insert - I've always thought it would be neat to see some other events scattered into the other scenarios for alternate stuff.. its a huge task but there should be some events written for after germany occupies UK and things like this).

So here goes - a thread to post your suggestions for events to occur in the 1945 campaign or hypothetical events for others as well.

Topic rule: just suggest events (and their code too if you're feeling supremely helpful) and discussion of said events. And lets try to avoid it being derailed into "But the communist party in greece in 1946 would never try that!", and so forth.

 

[xjermx]

For starters:

How about some revolt events for some of occupied Eastern Europe?

 

[unmerged(45530)]

Election events for 1948 and 1952 in the USA. Maybe death of Hitler by natural causes in 1951 or '52., with Georing as replacement Barking Buffoon. I dunno if Stalin's death in '53 is included but it should be. Surrender events for France, UK, USSR, and USA should be included for WW3. Same goes for both Chinas. Restoration of Japan should also be a US event, creating Japan as a puppet for US.

 

[unmerged(55467)]

For starters:

How about some revolt events for some of occupied Eastern Europe?

How about some in Western Europe?

 

[Panzerschiffe]

I've always wanted an event for a successful sealion.

Something like Northern Ireland being given to Ireland and balkanize the islands. Since Germany didnt really want to occupy them in the first place. So possibility to create scotland (at least) and being forced to occupy the rest (since theres no revolt for England right?)

 

[unmerged(51773)]

I think if the Uk is captured India should be set free however remain in the allies and also the rest of britain's holdings should be under like a free french but "free british". Aside from a few teritories like newfoundland/labridor going to canada and maybe spain recieving gibraltar? Also perhaps a reduced partisan to like 2% in the uk... maybe

 

[unmerged(55140)]

Hmmmm...possible events i would like to see (just some)...

If uk is annexed by gErmany, then all UK colonies are made independant, apart from those they really must keep, like some african, middle eastern etc...

If above applies, then the middle east troubles begin all over again....hehe

More allied events, to mark important events, good and bad between allied nations, nothing heavy just small changes, be it diplomacy sliders, dissent etc...

later in game, '45 onwards, more events relating to historical events, more fleshed out event i mean, not the current, some are in, but feel rushed etc...

frankly way too many to list...im tired typing already...ho-hum...

EDIT: Why does Africa have a serious lack on resources, africa had some very important resources which is why they were occupied for a long time!

 

[unmerged(55467)]

I've always wanted an event for a successful sealion.

Something like Northern Ireland being given to Ireland and balkanize the islands. Since Germany didnt really want to occupy them in the first place. So possibility to create scotland (at least) and being forced to occupy the rest (since theres no revolt for England right?)

I believe you can liberate Scotland... after the whole area is invaded, isn't it just "Liberate Nation" and Scotland is all ready to go? I'm not sure, I'm still a newb and haven't tried anything like that.

 

[NikkTheTrick]

A Soviet-Japanese war event. When Japan is completely kicked out of the continent (Manchuko and Korea taken) they would settle for some kind of peace with USSR.
In my USSR game I had Japan DoW me, hardly beat them back (with Chinese help - my GDE was atrocious :wacko: ) and now my forces are guarding the coast, so Japan cannot land, I cannot invade the Home Islands due to a "small" disparity in naval forces. It has been 2 years of stalemate :wacko:

 

[Panzerschiffe]

EDIT: Why does Africa have a serious lack on resources, africa had some very important resources which is why they were occupied for a long time!

Belgian congo is the richest area in africa. But im not familiar with the rest. Judging from the game, id say its a barren wasteland and i wonder why the allies even keep it considering it is of no use or value.

I believe you can liberate Scotland... after the whole area is invaded, isn't it just "Liberate Nation" and Scotland is all ready to go? I'm not sure, I'm still a newb and haven't tried anything like that.

England (red cross, white background...although UK has the ENG tag...) not Scotland. Scotland can be released, but i meant release through event.

Event when home islands conquered
-Ireland gets N. Ireland (and bonii like relations boost with germany and maybe some material as well from either UK conquests or given from germany)
-Canada gets Newfoundland/Labrador (turned into Nationals...unless Churchill wants to make it the place where his government in exile will be in)
-Scotland released
-England released (which would included wales i guess)
-Uk government in exile
-India might press for independance (thus wake that event earlier than 45)
-when UK is annexed, maybe have an event to unite the UK entities (as the Fascist UK)
-Quebec might press for independance (prolly not, but i'll mention it anyways)
-Germany gains some convoys
-Spain gets gibralter
-Arabs in the middle east would get restless and partisan activity would become a problem (or spawn revolters)

Thats all ive got for now, i think there are some good ideas in there.

 

[unmerged(25355)]

Election events for 1948 and 1952 in the USA. Maybe death of Hitler by natural causes in 1951 or '52., with Georing as replacement Barking Buffoon. I dunno if Stalin's death in '53 is included but it should be. Surrender events for France, UK, USSR, and USA should be included for WW3. Same goes for both Chinas. Restoration of Japan should also be a US event, creating Japan as a puppet for US.

you are assuming Georing would outlive Hitler. That may not have happened. He was in pretty sad shape when the US troops got him. Obese drug addict. Not a good combination. Maybe you let the play choose who is next? Or make it random?

 

[unmerged(44211)]

(I don't know if some of these events are already in game so correct me if they are)


1948
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January 30th - Mahatma Gandhi is murdered


February 4th - Ceylon becomes independant, King George VI becomes king of Ceylon
February 24th - Communist Party takes control of Czechoslovakia


April 3rd - Marshall Plan is signed
April 9th - Riots in Bogota over the assassination of Jorge Eliecer Gaitan
April 9th - Deir Yassin massacre takes place in Palestine


May 11th - Luigi Einaudi becomes President of Italy (Republic)
May 14th - Israel becomes independant
May 15th - 1948 Arab-Israeli War


June 24th - Berlin Blockade begins
June 28th - Soviet/Yugoslav split happens


September 4th - Queen Wilhelmina abdicates the throne
September 6th - Juliana becomes Queen of the Netherlands


November 24th - Rómulo Betancourt ousted in a military coup (Venezuela)


December 28th - Mahmud Fahmi Nokrashi assassinated by the Muslim Brotherhood

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1949
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January 25th - First Israeli elections take place


March 31st - Newfoundland becomes Canada's 10th province


April 19th - Ireland becomes the Republic of Ireland (Seperation from the commonwealth occured on April 1st, 1949)


May 5th - Treaty of London - Council of Europe is founded
May 11th - Siam becomes Thailand
May 23rd - Federal Republic of Germany is established


July 31st - Yangtze incident


October 7th - The DDR is established


You guys can add more, I'm tired.

 

[unmerged(45530)]

you are assuming Georing would outlive Hitler. That may not have happened. He was in pretty sad shape when the US troops got him. Obese drug addict. Not a good combination. Maybe you let the play choose who is next? Or make it random?

Well, i guess that's possible maybe go for a choice like this:

Nat. Soc. Radical- Himmler maybe
Fascist- dunno, maybe a general?
Moderate- one of the "vons"

 

[him_15]

Event of the US liberating Japan.

 

[unmerged(51738)]

Paradox really needs to implement New order events for the case of Axis and Comintern victory.

 

[unmerged(46366)]

I'd make this a pretty complex task, but here is how I would structure it:

There would be three "chains" of potential events.

The first would be more or less historical - things that actually happened in the world during the early Cold War. Some of these would allow some chance for a "hot war" breaking out between the "Allies" and the Warsaw Pact. This would be the "default" setting and apply to the starting 1945 Scenario (as well as the 36GC).

The second would be a "Germany defeats USSR" variant in which the UK presumably still survives. This chain could use the Bitter Peace as a trigger - BP would also "sleep" the first event "chain."

Finally, there would be what for want of a better term would be the "Fatherland" chain. In this, the UK has been defeated and the US and Germany are in a non-shooting "Cold War" similar to what was described in the excellent alt-history novel "Fatherland." I'd have the UK surrender sleep the second chain and wake this one up. You could have some sort of "US accepts fait accomli in Europe" event end the WW2 hostilities.

I think the last chain has all kinds of interesting possibilites. For those unfamiliar with the book, the rump USSR draws closer to the US and the Germans face unending US-funded "insurgencies" in their occupied eastern territories.

Completely unrelated note - I have not played DD 45 but if there isn't there about has to be a way to make the US the "leader" of the "Allies" alliance.

 

[unmerged(44587)]

You could have events for African resources coming on stream gradually from '45 onwards, like oil in N Africa, more rares from the Congo, etc. And some dissent/partisans can spring up (eg in Kenya?)

But yes, there should already be some rares and lots of metal from what was Northern Rhodesia (now Zambia). IIRC there's a bit in either Catch 22 or Slaughter House 5 about watching a morale boosting documentry shown backwards, so that factories labour round the clock to dismantle weapons of war, and it ends with the metal being buried in Africa!

Hope you don't mind me posting, just been reading this post.

 

[unmerged(37697)]

We should definitely be able to let the Nazis stay in control of Germany after 1945. The original idea was to let Dönitz and the rest of what remained of the hierarchy to aid the Allies in pushing the Reds back across the Russian border.

There should be an event, or at least a tag, for a unified Germany. It doesn't need to be Nazi (I think a new tag would be a good idea simply because they wouldn't use the Nazi flag post-1945 in my opinion), but it certainly wouldn't be the Federal or Democratic Republic.

 

[unmerged(44587)]

I believe that in Austria a German division surrendered to the Americans, and was ordered (by the Americans) to hold its positions against the Soviets who were still attacking!

No-one accepted Donetz as legitimate, but a few Soviet officers seemed happy to fratenize with his Staff for the first few days of his 'rule' and no one attacked him while the Allies worked out how to handle him! And then there were those German units in the Baltic Islands who refused to surrender to the Soviets, only to the British or Americans, and so eventually the Soviets bombed them to smithereens. I suppose you can envisage alternate circumstances where either Soviets or Western Allies accepted him as legimate if the other side had made smaller advances than RL, and so he would effectively surrender Germany to one side and not the other. But I think they would have been de-Nazified one way or another once they had surrendered. But the Allies were scared-stiff that Nazism would return...

 

[unmerged(19063)]

We should definitely be able to let the Nazis stay in control of Germany after 1945. The original idea was to let Dönitz and the rest of what remained of the hierarchy to aid the Allies in pushing the Reds back across the Russian border.

There should be an event, or at least a tag, for a unified Germany. It doesn't need to be Nazi (I think a new tag would be a good idea simply because they wouldn't use the Nazi flag post-1945 in my opinion), but it certainly wouldn't be the Federal or Democratic Republic.

Since the Nazi flag isn't in the game to begin with...

Maybe just use "GER" for Donitz's Germany and then change it depending on victory.

An allied victory means the Allies force Germany to become the BRD. A Soviet victory forces GER to become the DDR.