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I think "My struggle" is now "Our struggle" in this timeline. It's being used as propaganda for the Germans.
Wenselas, very nice handywork in Africa, good job. Interesting to see the CSA AI launching a major offensive in that area. About it's production orders, I may have a look at their AI and tweak a few things here and there, maybe combine it with an event that decides their military doctrine. This might take some time though, since we are short on techtree coders atm.
@Andromedus
It's an easily rectifiable thing if a player wants a better challenge, all they have to do is switch over to said country and have it qeue up a bunch of whatever unit the other country needs. I wish I had actually thought of it (With regards to tech) for Commune of France, so that they'd have III and IV level Tanks when the war originally started, but still, it'll make the American invasion all the more difficult, and more fun to watch for you guys.
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As the marines were being given the best equipment and toughest training on the Baltic Coastline as possible, the Kaiserliche Marine was busying itself away sinking any British ships around their isle. Through several pitched engagements the superior German Carriers had managed to sink all Syndicalist Carriers in the North Sea, clearing the way for German Sea Dominance, and safe passage to the German Merchant Fleet.
Even as more agents were being sneaked into Britain by the day, Intelligence was kept high on the largest Syndicalist Nation across the ocean. The Kaiser had reason to worry, even if the danger was several years down the road, as the Syndicates in America had begun to work on their own Atomic Project.
Back to the European Front.
By September 7th all was ready. 180,000 Marines, not counting Engineer brigades landing in support with them, were centered around the departure area of Normandy, France. All the ships of the Kaiserliche Marine had been gathered, with Carrier fleets watching at either end of the Channel for approaching British ships, and every other shore bombarding-capable vessel opposite the British beaches. On September 8th, Operation:Guillaume, the German invasion of Britain, was launched.
With about four thousand casualties, almost entirely spent on the Portsmouth beachhead, the Operation succeeded.
As the Marines recuperated and the transport ships raced back and forth between opposite channel coastlines to ship the rest of the Reichswehr to Britain, the Carrier fleets at the mouths of the Channel stopped the remnants of the British fleet from trying to disrupt the troop's safe passages.
Once on land, the Panzers and Motorized Divisions raced across the English countryside. Numerous British operations had bled the British of manpower necessary for home defense, and what was more, past the beachhead guard consisting of troops of nearly every Syndicalist nation, all that defended the rest of the isle were single divisions! Perhaps Le' Internationale was not as one in solidarity as it had boasted of being.
(Britain on Oct. 6th)
A most peculiar bill came through the Reichstag's lower chamber while the invasion was going swimmingly. Politicians from nearly all sides laughed the small group who had tried to suggest peace with the Syndicalists at this hour, and all polls coming out of their home provinces indicated those politicians would most definitely lose their next election run.
London fell halfway through October.
And by October 26th, Operation:Guillaume was a complete success. Honoring the treaties with the Austrialasian Confederation, and with some sympathy of his own for how the British Monarchs had suffered misfortune after misfortune in the earlier half of this current century, Wilhelm III helped reconstitute the United Kingdom, keeping the Greater British Isle unified rather than split up as some Reichstag deputies had suggested. German marines stayed in the UK until the British Royals could scrounge up enough loyalists for several divisions of their own.
(Head of State needs to be edited, George V dies in 1936, even in Kaiserreich's timeline!)
And so, the European nations were no longer under immediate threat of a Syndicalist attack. Rumors still floated about with regards to the Syndicalist Americans being far ahead of anyone with regards to Carrier design, but for now, the German nation could take a breather, as the General Staff planned how to continue the war on the American continents.
One of the first things done was fill in the depleted Kaiserreich Merchant fleet, that had suffered mercilessly when the British Syndicalists and Austrialasians had both been attacking the routes they traveled.
A second thing to do was let the Reichswehr parade about the Kaiserreich in show for their great victories in Europe and Africa. Some on the General Staff thought this was premature, as the American Syndicalists had still not been defeated, and there was no chance of striking a peace with them, but the German populace demanded the lauding of their victorious sons and fathers and brothers, and so it was done. After all the celebrations, much leave was granted, though the Reichswehr discharged barely anyone. Training continued, as did issuing of the newest weapons and equipment.
The war would continue, until Syndicalism the world over was stomped out (Wilhelm III continued to assure his people of this over the radio). Until proper invasion forces could be mounted however, their own war took a back seat with the German populace, as much of their attention seemed to go to the war Russia had been fighting in the Far East since 42' against the Japanese Empire. Russian Armored forces had finally made significant headway into Japanese territory, and as the Japanese seemed to ineptly have no armor of their own, would probably continue to do so.
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It's an easily rectifiable thing if a player wants a better challenge, all they have to do is switch over to said country and have it qeue up a bunch of whatever unit the other country needs. I wish I had actually thought of it (With regards to tech) for Commune of France, so that they'd have III and IV level Tanks when the war originally started, but still, it'll make the American invasion all the more difficult, and more fun to watch for you guys.
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As the marines were being given the best equipment and toughest training on the Baltic Coastline as possible, the Kaiserliche Marine was busying itself away sinking any British ships around their isle. Through several pitched engagements the superior German Carriers had managed to sink all Syndicalist Carriers in the North Sea, clearing the way for German Sea Dominance, and safe passage to the German Merchant Fleet.
Even as more agents were being sneaked into Britain by the day, Intelligence was kept high on the largest Syndicalist Nation across the ocean. The Kaiser had reason to worry, even if the danger was several years down the road, as the Syndicates in America had begun to work on their own Atomic Project.
Back to the European Front.
By September 7th all was ready. 180,000 Marines, not counting Engineer brigades landing in support with them, were centered around the departure area of Normandy, France. All the ships of the Kaiserliche Marine had been gathered, with Carrier fleets watching at either end of the Channel for approaching British ships, and every other shore bombarding-capable vessel opposite the British beaches. On September 8th, Operation:Guillaume, the German invasion of Britain, was launched.
With about four thousand casualties, almost entirely spent on the Portsmouth beachhead, the Operation succeeded.
As the Marines recuperated and the transport ships raced back and forth between opposite channel coastlines to ship the rest of the Reichswehr to Britain, the Carrier fleets at the mouths of the Channel stopped the remnants of the British fleet from trying to disrupt the troop's safe passages.
Once on land, the Panzers and Motorized Divisions raced across the English countryside. Numerous British operations had bled the British of manpower necessary for home defense, and what was more, past the beachhead guard consisting of troops of nearly every Syndicalist nation, all that defended the rest of the isle were single divisions! Perhaps Le' Internationale was not as one in solidarity as it had boasted of being.
(Britain on Oct. 6th)
A most peculiar bill came through the Reichstag's lower chamber while the invasion was going swimmingly. Politicians from nearly all sides laughed the small group who had tried to suggest peace with the Syndicalists at this hour, and all polls coming out of their home provinces indicated those politicians would most definitely lose their next election run.
London fell halfway through October.
And by October 26th, Operation:Guillaume was a complete success. Honoring the treaties with the Austrialasian Confederation, and with some sympathy of his own for how the British Monarchs had suffered misfortune after misfortune in the earlier half of this current century, Wilhelm III helped reconstitute the United Kingdom, keeping the Greater British Isle unified rather than split up as some Reichstag deputies had suggested. German marines stayed in the UK until the British Royals could scrounge up enough loyalists for several divisions of their own.
(Head of State needs to be edited, George V dies in 1936, even in Kaiserreich's timeline!)
And so, the European nations were no longer under immediate threat of a Syndicalist attack. Rumors still floated about with regards to the Syndicalist Americans being far ahead of anyone with regards to Carrier design, but for now, the German nation could take a breather, as the General Staff planned how to continue the war on the American continents.
One of the first things done was fill in the depleted Kaiserreich Merchant fleet, that had suffered mercilessly when the British Syndicalists and Austrialasians had both been attacking the routes they traveled.
A second thing to do was let the Reichswehr parade about the Kaiserreich in show for their great victories in Europe and Africa. Some on the General Staff thought this was premature, as the American Syndicalists had still not been defeated, and there was no chance of striking a peace with them, but the German populace demanded the lauding of their victorious sons and fathers and brothers, and so it was done. After all the celebrations, much leave was granted, though the Reichswehr discharged barely anyone. Training continued, as did issuing of the newest weapons and equipment.
The war would continue, until Syndicalism the world over was stomped out (Wilhelm III continued to assure his people of this over the radio). Until proper invasion forces could be mounted however, their own war took a back seat with the German populace, as much of their attention seemed to go to the war Russia had been fighting in the Far East since 42' against the Japanese Empire. Russian Armored forces had finally made significant headway into Japanese territory, and as the Japanese seemed to ineptly have no armor of their own, would probably continue to do so.
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hehehe
does the Kaiser have any younger brothers who would take up the mantle as Kaiser of America?
does the Kaiser have any younger brothers who would take up the mantle as Kaiser of America?
Cool. For some reason I like the fact that the German invasion of England has a French name.
Hmmm... I think the Germans would liberate the UK and reinstall the royal family in a world like this. It's not as if they haven't enough problems on their hands right now. But I doubt they'd really jump over the ocean to attack a far away foe that size. I guess it'd rather come down to a cold war of sorts with both sides watching each other across the sea. Then again, Germany has quite a lot of interest and ties to the South American states and would want to protect them.
Anyway, I think no one here wants a cold war.
Hmmm... I think the Germans would liberate the UK and reinstall the royal family in a world like this. It's not as if they haven't enough problems on their hands right now. But I doubt they'd really jump over the ocean to attack a far away foe that size. I guess it'd rather come down to a cold war of sorts with both sides watching each other across the sea. Then again, Germany has quite a lot of interest and ties to the South American states and would want to protect them.
Anyway, I think no one here wants a cold war.
Undead-Hippie said:
Mein Kampf is a book, Unser Kampf is a movie
Hail to Germany allowing the British Royal family to return!
rhynoclemmis said:
On the contrary, I'd very much like to see a Cold War between the German Empire and Syndicalist America.
Generally yes, as it is a very interesting setting. A monarchial, Europe-dominating Germany and a syndicalist America with an ocean to separate them and both are researching nukes. The setting is good, would be ideal for some ahistorical book of some sort. But cold wars in HOI tend to be rather uneventful, I'm afraid.SeanB said:On the contrary, I'd very much like to see a Cold War between the German Empire and Syndicalist America.
Perhaps make peace? Let's kiss and make up?
rhynoclemmis said:
Well, obviously it'd be mostly a story driven tale from that point onwards.
Wow, How I didn't see this AAR? It's impressive to see that Reed and his Syndicalists have gone so far.
The UK problem will be fixed for Beta V, as UoB surrender events towards Canada and the Royal Family going back to the isles will be implemented. Or so they say in Kaiserreich thread.
The UK problem will be fixed for Beta V, as UoB surrender events towards Canada and the Royal Family going back to the isles will be implemented. Or so they say in Kaiserreich thread.
Update 16
@SeanB
You and I are in the same boat, a Cold War where the Market Liberal/Religious/Monarchial forces are taking the shape in an Imperial Germany and the Communist/Socialist ideas of the world are in the Western Hemisphere would make for an excellent story! Unfortunately KR, once war starts, like in regular HoI2, it doesn't have many, if any specific diplomatic/political events for intrigue and a Cold War atmosphere. If I were knowledgeable enough to make such events I'd try it, but without that the more interesting of the two paths would definitely be a straight war.
I've always thought Kaiserreich could be an excellent setting for a novel or a short series to do, Turtledove-ish with regards to characters and how they'd fit in.
@rhynoclemmis
The name is even cooler when you realize who it's referring to. =)
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There was actually still one last spot of Syndicalist resistance in the European/African front, those being the islands just off the coast of Spanish Morocco.
Two courses could have been taken. The Syndicalists were well-entrenched on the isles, and it would take a significant effort to remove them. On the other hand they had a bit of a fleet on one of the island's docks, and any attacks into the Americas would be slightly compromised should the those Syndicalist forces decide to strike at lightly defended Africa or Southern Africa.
In the end an offense was decided on by the General Staff, sparking a brief 3-month bloody little conflict to kick the Syndicalists out. Spanish and Princely Federation forces assisted the German marines assaulting every beach.
Following that, the plans for getting German forces to the Americas was rolled out to the Kaiser and non-General Staff officers. A direct assault on the CSA, in any location was a logistical and manpower suicide, and a much closer base had to be made, probably in the Caribbeans, though possibly in the Pacific. Being that the Pacific isles had always been backwater colonies of the Reich, and logistical lines in that direction would be a great deal longer, an approach from the East was decided.
The first target would be Brazil.
The invasion started off well, with Brazilian resistance nowhere near that of British.
Perhaps because Germany had finally landed on the continent, La Plata, constantly having been badgered by the diplomats of the Reichstag and Kaiser to join in an alliance, finally agrees. Suddenly a one-front nigh unwinnable war for Brazil becomes a two-front nightmare.
As predicted by the General Staff, much like in Jungle Afrika, the most difficult part of the mission for the marines under nominal leadership of General Erwin Rommel, is traversing the thick and poorly-roaded (if at all) jungles of Brazil and Bolivia. In Germany meanwhile, several divisions of German Mountaineer troops were being trained, in advance for the stretches of mountainous North America.
(Brazil in October)
The German Secret Atomic Bomb project had found other uses for the potentially destructive energy. With two bombs already by November, theories and blueprints were being drawn up atomic-power vehicles, most importantly ships. The German KriegsMarine Liche, trying to catch up the CSA in Carrier technology, welcomed this idea greatly.
Nearing the end of November, the governments of the two South American Syndicalist nations capitulated, bitter in the lack of help provided by their North American "Workers in Solidarity". While La Plata gobbled up all of Bolivia, Germany took most of Brazil, and set up negotiations with Portugal for returning the land back to them after the war. For the time being however, the Brazilian coastal industry and resources would be put directly to German needs.
If the Germans had forgotten or forced the Second Russo-Japanese war raging on in Asia at the time, the Japanese made sure of reminding them of that, by launching a surprise attack on Russia's European part. There were some cries for German intervention to end the war (Favorably for Russia more than not), but with the upcoming struggle against the Bolshevik Juggernaut, those calls would be put off until after the war reached some satisfactory conclusion.
Just as Mountaineer troops were being raised for special situations, so was the rest of the Reichswehr being outfitted with the latest weaponry and tactics. Mechanized Infantry, able to keep up with Tanks, were being assigned under nominal Panzer Generals, meant to give greater strength to individual armies. Tank Destroyers, Rocket Artillery, and the newest of fighter and bomber designs were all being shipped out as soon as possible. Speed was going to be essential on the giant American plains.
By Feb. 1947 the next stage of the American Front Campaign was launched, that of the liberating of the Caribbean Islands. The Panama Canal zone was also suggested for this Operation, but was scrapped at the sight of how heavily fortified the isthmus was under the majority of the CentroAmerican military. It would have to be taken once the majority of the Reichswehr had been shipped over for the direct assault on North America.
(The outlines of the Caribbean assaults)
As Rommel was entering Havana, one of the last (predicted) Carrier battles took place off the coast of Florida. The American Syndicalists had tossed together the last of their navies in a desperate attempt to dissuade the Germans of landing against them, and in failing in doing so, lost their last two Carriers.
The German Reichswehr was not yet ready in terms of equipment and new divisions however, nor were there sufficient transports to get them over to the Caribbean staging points in a timely fashion. While there was always the threat of more time for the CSA meaning more of a chance that they could crack the atomic secret, it was better than possibly getting stuck in a quagmire, outnumbered by the sheer amount of divisions the Americans could deploy. The months would pass increasingly uncomfortably by, before the General Staff would decide the Reichswehr was fit to take out the last, and most dangerous, of the Syndicalists.
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Alright guys, here's a choice for you all. America's a big place, and there's several opportunities to strike them. The General Staff (All you readers), have several options for where to make the breakthrough.
A)The underbelly of America, Mexico and Central America
B)Florida, closest land to the German military in the Caribbean
C)New York/East Coast area, lot of industry in there.
You guys can vote and I'll do what you choose (Provided the other site doesn't outvote you) in the next update.
@SeanB
You and I are in the same boat, a Cold War where the Market Liberal/Religious/Monarchial forces are taking the shape in an Imperial Germany and the Communist/Socialist ideas of the world are in the Western Hemisphere would make for an excellent story! Unfortunately KR, once war starts, like in regular HoI2, it doesn't have many, if any specific diplomatic/political events for intrigue and a Cold War atmosphere. If I were knowledgeable enough to make such events I'd try it, but without that the more interesting of the two paths would definitely be a straight war.
I've always thought Kaiserreich could be an excellent setting for a novel or a short series to do, Turtledove-ish with regards to characters and how they'd fit in.
@rhynoclemmis
The name is even cooler when you realize who it's referring to. =)
~~~~
There was actually still one last spot of Syndicalist resistance in the European/African front, those being the islands just off the coast of Spanish Morocco.
Two courses could have been taken. The Syndicalists were well-entrenched on the isles, and it would take a significant effort to remove them. On the other hand they had a bit of a fleet on one of the island's docks, and any attacks into the Americas would be slightly compromised should the those Syndicalist forces decide to strike at lightly defended Africa or Southern Africa.
In the end an offense was decided on by the General Staff, sparking a brief 3-month bloody little conflict to kick the Syndicalists out. Spanish and Princely Federation forces assisted the German marines assaulting every beach.
Following that, the plans for getting German forces to the Americas was rolled out to the Kaiser and non-General Staff officers. A direct assault on the CSA, in any location was a logistical and manpower suicide, and a much closer base had to be made, probably in the Caribbeans, though possibly in the Pacific. Being that the Pacific isles had always been backwater colonies of the Reich, and logistical lines in that direction would be a great deal longer, an approach from the East was decided.
The first target would be Brazil.
The invasion started off well, with Brazilian resistance nowhere near that of British.
Perhaps because Germany had finally landed on the continent, La Plata, constantly having been badgered by the diplomats of the Reichstag and Kaiser to join in an alliance, finally agrees. Suddenly a one-front nigh unwinnable war for Brazil becomes a two-front nightmare.
As predicted by the General Staff, much like in Jungle Afrika, the most difficult part of the mission for the marines under nominal leadership of General Erwin Rommel, is traversing the thick and poorly-roaded (if at all) jungles of Brazil and Bolivia. In Germany meanwhile, several divisions of German Mountaineer troops were being trained, in advance for the stretches of mountainous North America.
(Brazil in October)
The German Secret Atomic Bomb project had found other uses for the potentially destructive energy. With two bombs already by November, theories and blueprints were being drawn up atomic-power vehicles, most importantly ships. The German KriegsMarine Liche, trying to catch up the CSA in Carrier technology, welcomed this idea greatly.
Nearing the end of November, the governments of the two South American Syndicalist nations capitulated, bitter in the lack of help provided by their North American "Workers in Solidarity". While La Plata gobbled up all of Bolivia, Germany took most of Brazil, and set up negotiations with Portugal for returning the land back to them after the war. For the time being however, the Brazilian coastal industry and resources would be put directly to German needs.
If the Germans had forgotten or forced the Second Russo-Japanese war raging on in Asia at the time, the Japanese made sure of reminding them of that, by launching a surprise attack on Russia's European part. There were some cries for German intervention to end the war (Favorably for Russia more than not), but with the upcoming struggle against the Bolshevik Juggernaut, those calls would be put off until after the war reached some satisfactory conclusion.
Just as Mountaineer troops were being raised for special situations, so was the rest of the Reichswehr being outfitted with the latest weaponry and tactics. Mechanized Infantry, able to keep up with Tanks, were being assigned under nominal Panzer Generals, meant to give greater strength to individual armies. Tank Destroyers, Rocket Artillery, and the newest of fighter and bomber designs were all being shipped out as soon as possible. Speed was going to be essential on the giant American plains.
By Feb. 1947 the next stage of the American Front Campaign was launched, that of the liberating of the Caribbean Islands. The Panama Canal zone was also suggested for this Operation, but was scrapped at the sight of how heavily fortified the isthmus was under the majority of the CentroAmerican military. It would have to be taken once the majority of the Reichswehr had been shipped over for the direct assault on North America.
(The outlines of the Caribbean assaults)
As Rommel was entering Havana, one of the last (predicted) Carrier battles took place off the coast of Florida. The American Syndicalists had tossed together the last of their navies in a desperate attempt to dissuade the Germans of landing against them, and in failing in doing so, lost their last two Carriers.
The German Reichswehr was not yet ready in terms of equipment and new divisions however, nor were there sufficient transports to get them over to the Caribbean staging points in a timely fashion. While there was always the threat of more time for the CSA meaning more of a chance that they could crack the atomic secret, it was better than possibly getting stuck in a quagmire, outnumbered by the sheer amount of divisions the Americans could deploy. The months would pass increasingly uncomfortably by, before the General Staff would decide the Reichswehr was fit to take out the last, and most dangerous, of the Syndicalists.
~~~~
Alright guys, here's a choice for you all. America's a big place, and there's several opportunities to strike them. The General Staff (All you readers), have several options for where to make the breakthrough.
A)The underbelly of America, Mexico and Central America
B)Florida, closest land to the German military in the Caribbean
C)New York/East Coast area, lot of industry in there.
You guys can vote and I'll do what you choose (Provided the other site doesn't outvote you) in the next update.
I say go through the "weak underbelly of N. America", and knock the Americans outta the war!
Go for the industrial heartland on the east coast. Once that's gone the US is generally fucked.
thatguy said:
I would vote for Mexico, in that way you would give AI time to react and it wouldn't, hopefully, be walkover as usual.
